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Making Parts
- Thread starter chylin73
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Destructo6
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What parts? You shouldn't get into any legal trouble making any title 1 part or receiver/frame as long as it's for personal use. I believe if you construct a frame/receiver, you have to mark it with a serial number, maker's name, and maker's location(city, state), and let the BATF know.
If you're just making hammers, triggers, sears, etc or any other part that isn't a "conversion part", you don't need to do anything special.
If you're just making hammers, triggers, sears, etc or any other part that isn't a "conversion part", you don't need to do anything special.
Some info (long)
Hi, chylin73,
Here is what BATF says:
"With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a nonlicensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms.
However, a person is prohibited from making a semiautomatic assault weapon or assembling a nonsporting semiautomatic rifle or nonsporting shotgun from
imported parts. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and approval by ATF. An application to make a machinegun will not be
approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a federal or state agency. [18 U. S. C. 922( o), (r), (v), and 923, 27 CFR 178.39, 178.40, 178.41 and 179.105]"
Note that "making" here means manufacturing a receiver/frame, not simply assembling a firearm on a receiver.
Note also that this applies only if a person makes a firearm (receiver) himself for his own use. If he contracts someone else to do it, that person must have a manufacturer's license, since HE is not making the gun for HIS OWN use.
The manufacture of parts is generally not prohibited or controlled. However, some parts or combination of parts are considered, in and by themselves, to be machineguns and the manufacture of such parts would be the same as manufacturing a machinegun, which is now prohibited. These would include such parts as the complete carbine "M2 kit"and the AR-15 drop-in auto sear (DIAS) and "lightning link". There may be others, but these are the most discussed.
Hi, hkg3,
I know of no law making "talking about" NFA parts illegal. I just did so, as you note, and I am not expecting a knock on the door.
The only way talking about something can be illegal is if one is engaged in a conspiracy to violate the law, which is clearly not the case in mere "talking about".
Also, note that both BATF and I are talking about Federal Law. State or local law may prohibit making a firearm, especially a handgun, so those laws should be checked.
Jim
Hi, chylin73,
Here is what BATF says:
"With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a nonlicensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms.
However, a person is prohibited from making a semiautomatic assault weapon or assembling a nonsporting semiautomatic rifle or nonsporting shotgun from
imported parts. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and approval by ATF. An application to make a machinegun will not be
approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a federal or state agency. [18 U. S. C. 922( o), (r), (v), and 923, 27 CFR 178.39, 178.40, 178.41 and 179.105]"
Note that "making" here means manufacturing a receiver/frame, not simply assembling a firearm on a receiver.
Note also that this applies only if a person makes a firearm (receiver) himself for his own use. If he contracts someone else to do it, that person must have a manufacturer's license, since HE is not making the gun for HIS OWN use.
The manufacture of parts is generally not prohibited or controlled. However, some parts or combination of parts are considered, in and by themselves, to be machineguns and the manufacture of such parts would be the same as manufacturing a machinegun, which is now prohibited. These would include such parts as the complete carbine "M2 kit"and the AR-15 drop-in auto sear (DIAS) and "lightning link". There may be others, but these are the most discussed.
Hi, hkg3,
I know of no law making "talking about" NFA parts illegal. I just did so, as you note, and I am not expecting a knock on the door.
The only way talking about something can be illegal is if one is engaged in a conspiracy to violate the law, which is clearly not the case in mere "talking about".
Also, note that both BATF and I are talking about Federal Law. State or local law may prohibit making a firearm, especially a handgun, so those laws should be checked.
Jim
yankytrash
New member
Conspiracy is only conspiracy if it can be proven that there is actual intent by the conspirater. Intent would be evidence of blueprints and the personally owned machinery and supplies to manufacture an NFA item.
In this case, chylin73 is heads-up enough to not specfically mention what part he is planning to make. [/conspiracy-theory mode OFF]
You want blueprints? There are many books and sources for blueprints of many guns out there. I've dealt with these people before; they're pretty good, although their prices are a little higher than most:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~lunamom/index.html
Good luck.
In this case, chylin73 is heads-up enough to not specfically mention what part he is planning to make. [/conspiracy-theory mode OFF]
You want blueprints? There are many books and sources for blueprints of many guns out there. I've dealt with these people before; they're pretty good, although their prices are a little higher than most:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~lunamom/index.html
Good luck.
Keith Buckner
New member
In answer to the question...
It is OK to make YOUR OWN parts. THAT was the subject of the question. IF you are going to go into production to SELL your parts, then you should check with ATF, and your local gov't and abide by the MANY egulations involved with BOTH setting up a business and that business being firearms oriented. This info is irrelevant to your question, though, which delt solely with making YOUR OWN parts for YOUR OWN use.
I make replacement parts all the time. You can make ANY part for yourself that is LEGAL for you to own. Very simple.
You can build your own gun from scratch if you like, as long as that gun is not of a type that is illegal (like a newly manufactured FA weapon, or newly manufactured hicap mags) to own. It must, of course, conform to current laws and restrictions.
I have a CNC desktop mill, and mini lathe and have used them to make semi US parts to conform to the parts rule on several projects. Now, though, there are several companies making enough US parts that it is not really necesssary to do, so I do it for the sheer pleasure of "doing it myself".
As for drawings, search the web.. usegroups, newsgroups, boards. They're out there. Or.. you could always just do your own.
It is OK to make YOUR OWN parts. THAT was the subject of the question. IF you are going to go into production to SELL your parts, then you should check with ATF, and your local gov't and abide by the MANY egulations involved with BOTH setting up a business and that business being firearms oriented. This info is irrelevant to your question, though, which delt solely with making YOUR OWN parts for YOUR OWN use.
I make replacement parts all the time. You can make ANY part for yourself that is LEGAL for you to own. Very simple.
You can build your own gun from scratch if you like, as long as that gun is not of a type that is illegal (like a newly manufactured FA weapon, or newly manufactured hicap mags) to own. It must, of course, conform to current laws and restrictions.
I have a CNC desktop mill, and mini lathe and have used them to make semi US parts to conform to the parts rule on several projects. Now, though, there are several companies making enough US parts that it is not really necesssary to do, so I do it for the sheer pleasure of "doing it myself".
As for drawings, search the web.. usegroups, newsgroups, boards. They're out there. Or.. you could always just do your own.