I've seen Sten mags and "grease gun" mags advertised for dirt cheap prices. Are there any good, reliable semi-auto weapons that use these guns? Valkyrie Arms makes a semi-auto grease gun that costs about $700, but the general consensus seems to be that they are junk. I know the STEN was a submachine gun, but have not heard of any semi-auto carbines that utilize these magazines. I really like the so-called assault weapons largely because they don't batter me to death like high-powered weapons. So is there anything out there that I should consider?
Magazines in search for a gun?
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Badger Arms
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Grease guns Junk?
Bullcrap. And where did you get your price quote? The Grease Gun suffered from many things. One was that small statured pansies didn't like carrying them around. When a man uses the gun and is taught how to control the fire, it can be very effective. The M3A1 is a rugged weapon that is only now, after over 50 years of service, being replaced. The main fault of the Grease Gun is the magazine which is prone to jamming.
One thing the Grease Gun did NOT suffer from was price overruns.
Bullcrap. And where did you get your price quote? The Grease Gun suffered from many things. One was that small statured pansies didn't like carrying them around. When a man uses the gun and is taught how to control the fire, it can be very effective. The M3A1 is a rugged weapon that is only now, after over 50 years of service, being replaced. The main fault of the Grease Gun is the magazine which is prone to jamming.
One thing the Grease Gun did NOT suffer from was price overruns.
the british paid $18 for each sten
us ithink 20-25 for m3 grease gun
originly during ww2
both sten and m3 suffered from bad mags
one reson for the price of mags is that when u have couple of milion guns on your hands i think u should have at least one mag for each othervise it's $18 worth of S@#$
us ithink 20-25 for m3 grease gun
originly during ww2
both sten and m3 suffered from bad mags
one reson for the price of mags is that when u have couple of milion guns on your hands i think u should have at least one mag for each othervise it's $18 worth of S@#$
Badger Arms-
I got that price from personal experiene as an Army Officer during the Korean War. When a soldier looses a piece of organizational equipment a Statement of Charges is made out and the price of the item is deducted from his pay. The Tables of Organization and Equipment dictate what weapon will be issued to each soldier. Grease Guns were the issue weapons for soldiers in certain jobs, for example vehicle drivers. No one was willing to carry a Grease Gun in a combat situation.
If allowed to, all soldiers in combat units turned in their Grease Gun and replaced it with an M2 Carbine or an M1 Garand. Those who could not do that simply "lost" their Grease Guns and got a Carbine or a Garand as a replacement. They did have to pay the $ii.85 on a Statement of Charges but they considered that a small price to pay to get rid of that piece of junk and replace it with a decent weapon.
Since I singed many Statement of Charges for "lost Grease Guns' the $11.85 price sticks in my mind.
As for " When a man uses the gun and is taught how to control the fire, it can be very effective." during a 13 month tour in Korea with the &th Infantry Division I nnever sw an American soldier forward of the artillery line carrying one. I think that that speaks for itself.
If you used a Grease Gun in combat perhaps you can tell us in just what ways you found it so effective.
I got that price from personal experiene as an Army Officer during the Korean War. When a soldier looses a piece of organizational equipment a Statement of Charges is made out and the price of the item is deducted from his pay. The Tables of Organization and Equipment dictate what weapon will be issued to each soldier. Grease Guns were the issue weapons for soldiers in certain jobs, for example vehicle drivers. No one was willing to carry a Grease Gun in a combat situation.
If allowed to, all soldiers in combat units turned in their Grease Gun and replaced it with an M2 Carbine or an M1 Garand. Those who could not do that simply "lost" their Grease Guns and got a Carbine or a Garand as a replacement. They did have to pay the $ii.85 on a Statement of Charges but they considered that a small price to pay to get rid of that piece of junk and replace it with a decent weapon.
Since I singed many Statement of Charges for "lost Grease Guns' the $11.85 price sticks in my mind.
As for " When a man uses the gun and is taught how to control the fire, it can be very effective." during a 13 month tour in Korea with the &th Infantry Division I nnever sw an American soldier forward of the artillery line carrying one. I think that that speaks for itself.
If you used a Grease Gun in combat perhaps you can tell us in just what ways you found it so effective.
Badger Arms
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Replacement cost and source cost are two different things. I thought you were saying $411.00. The price I heard was closer to $20 which would make sense if the replacement cost was $12. My Father Carried an M-3A1 and heard as much praise as criticism. Much of the criticism came from those who preferred the M-1 Carbine because they shot better with it. I am of the opinion that they never bothered to get over the 'flinch' associated with any large caliber weapon. Wouldn't find any who have mastered the BAR complain about the Grease Gun.
I think we'll both agree that paying any more than about $200 for a grease gun of any form is too much.
I think we'll both agree that paying any more than about $200 for a grease gun of any form is too much.
Badger Arms
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Nukem...
Where do you get the block? Oly Arms said they don't sell them anymore because idiots were dropping the whole assembly instead of using just the Sten mag release. I wouldn't mind having an upper, but I can spend less on converting my Cobray M-11 through:
http://www.tacticalinc.com/m11sten.html
I've got an M-11 carbine.
Where do you get the block? Oly Arms said they don't sell them anymore because idiots were dropping the whole assembly instead of using just the Sten mag release. I wouldn't mind having an upper, but I can spend less on converting my Cobray M-11 through:
http://www.tacticalinc.com/m11sten.html
I've got an M-11 carbine.
Badger Arms
I believe it's the Socom block, they run about $50. Look over on the subguns board. You could make one in about an hour on a small mill, not very complex.
I wouldn't call anybody an idiot because they were used to an AR mag change drill and dumped the whole thing, it's easy to do.
[Edited by Nukem on 02-12-2001 at 07:16 PM]
I believe it's the Socom block, they run about $50. Look over on the subguns board. You could make one in about an hour on a small mill, not very complex.
I wouldn't call anybody an idiot because they were used to an AR mag change drill and dumped the whole thing, it's easy to do.
[Edited by Nukem on 02-12-2001 at 07:16 PM]
Badger Arms
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Idiots...
Okay, point taken. No, they aren't idiots if they drop both the adaptor and the mag in the heat of the moment. They might, however, get shot for it. Unless you had interchangeable uppers, I'd think that a small nut in place of the mag release button could prevent such a thing. What subguns board are you talking about?
Okay, point taken. No, they aren't idiots if they drop both the adaptor and the mag in the heat of the moment. They might, however, get shot for it. Unless you had interchangeable uppers, I'd think that a small nut in place of the mag release button could prevent such a thing. What subguns board are you talking about?