(MA) Local LEO's disarmed by Town Selectmen

[USP45]

Hingham Harbormaster

Well, this is absolutly absurd.

As seen in the current issue of "The Message" (GOAL's news letter), the town selectmen have mandated that the Hingham Harbormasters may no longer possess pepper spray, batons, or CCW during duty.

Massachusetts. First we disarm the citizens, then we disarm the LEO's. Long live the criminal.

(You LEO's had better start supporting citizen RKBA, because you are next. Here is the proof.)

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~USP

"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998

[This message has been edited by USP45 (edited July 10, 2000).]

 

[bruels]

The selectmen can pretty much decide how they want to run the police department the way they want. The officers are free to go work somewhere else. If the citizens of Hingham want their officers armed, then it is time for the residents of Hingham to change the membership of the selectmen.

I've seen city councils disband police departments in favor of having the sheriff provide law enforcement services because they weren't happy with the police department. They can do it.

 

[TAZ]

It is about as absurd as disarming the general populace, actually it less so. I wish each and every city, county... would do something like this so that their true colors could be clearly seen by all. Once the LEO's have to deal with the same rules and regulations as the rest of the serfs, then they might actually stand up for the Constitution. Until then, they will have little personal risk at stake and their willingness to risk their cushy jobs will be at a low.

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"Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes."
-R.A. Heinlein

 

[Glenn E. Meyer]

A friend of mine teaches a seminar on to agencies (like campus cops) that face this issue.

He told me that what works is the threat of lawsuits. Supposedly when you put someone in harms way and deny them the means to defend themselves, the organization is massively liable.

Note - there is a subtle difference among risk management people on this analysis as applied to civilians but I said that elsewhere.

 

[mrat]

Taz,
The next time I am sitting in the emergency room waiting for the doctor to see me because of another on duty injury, I will call you up and we can discuss my "cushy" job. Is it possible that you not make inflammatory comments towards LEOs or about LEOs to prove a point? Give it a rest! The LEOs that come to TFL are obviously pro RKBA and I for one get tired of this kind of petty crap.

 

[LawDog]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Until then, they will have little personal risk at stake and their willingness to risk their cushy jobs will be at a low.[/quote]

Hmm. I better look up the definition of 'cushy job', because I obviously have the meaning wrong.

LawDog

 

[Dangus]

What Taz is rather tactlessly saying is that the police who years ago were just as vocal as the rest of us, are no longer so, but if someone tried to disarm them too, their danger level would dramatically increase, which certainly would make them more vocal.

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth

 

[bookkie]

Heck, police officers don't need to carry guns.... afterall that escaped con they set up for life in prison has only threatened to return and kill everyone connected with his conviction. Had a case like this when I was growing up. Two real bad brothers (arrested for murdering the sherrif's mother) threatened to come back and kill the LEO, the judge and everyone on the jury.... They got off on a tech on their appeal. Claimed that the jury was bias since their trial was held locally. They did come back...... only problem for them was, when they entered the first house with their loaded guns.... Well anyway, they were layed to rest real quite like. No fan fare, no news media.... If I had not been a good friend of one of the attending officers... I would never have known about it.

Cushy job? Sorry, but the emotion that the officers have to put up with on a daily basis.... I'll say no more.




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Richard

The debate is not about guns,
but rather who has the ultimate power to rule,
the People or Government.
RKBA!

 

[dog3]

Cushy Jobs?

??

Now, anyone who has bothered reading
my rants knows I am not the most vocal
supporter of LEOs, but I would not
describe the duties of a leo to be
cushy.

No, I really wouldn't.