I already own a Colt 20" HBAR A2 using iron sights, and im now looking to get a shorter barrel M4. Im not crazy about red dot scopes, so does anyone use a traditional scope on their M4? I know the M4 is really for shorter distances than the A2, so Im not sure using a scope would make alot of sense. Can you guys recommend a good optic for an M4? Thanks.
M4 Optics
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HorseSoldier
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I ran an issued ACOG or a privately purchased Horus Talon on my M4A1 before I got out. Presently run an privately purchased ACOG on my AR.
In actual military usage, this isn't true. An ACOG on either an M4 of M16 makes a 600 meter gun (at least for range use -- mileage tends to vary and diminish badly in the real world), without magnified optics neither is much good past 300 and really not coming into their own until a good ways inside that distance.
What's your price range? A good quality used ACOG (TA01NSN model) can be had in the $600-ish range, which is also what they're charging for the Horus scope I mentioned above these days, I think (though that is without rings or other mount). Prices up from there for .mil issue stuff or built to similar standards.
In actual military usage, this isn't true. An ACOG on either an M4 of M16 makes a 600 meter gun (at least for range use -- mileage tends to vary and diminish badly in the real world), without magnified optics neither is much good past 300 and really not coming into their own until a good ways inside that distance.
What's your price range? A good quality used ACOG (TA01NSN model) can be had in the $600-ish range, which is also what they're charging for the Horus scope I mentioned above these days, I think (though that is without rings or other mount). Prices up from there for .mil issue stuff or built to similar standards.
maestro pistolero
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1X-4X.
I like the idea of a 1-4X, or maybe 1-6x on an M4. 1X, because the gun is primarily a CBQ weapon, 4X because it's still pretty effective at 300-plus. The magnification matches up well with the strengths of the round.
I would look at Nightforce, S&B, Elcan, Leupold, and on the lower end maybe Nikon, and don't leave out IOR. There are others ..not a complete list by any means. There are quite a few choices of 1-4X scopes these days.
Another way is to get a relatively inexpensive fixed power scope (Super Sniper?) and mount irons at a 45˚ angle for BUIS.
I like the idea of a 1-4X, or maybe 1-6x on an M4. 1X, because the gun is primarily a CBQ weapon, 4X because it's still pretty effective at 300-plus. The magnification matches up well with the strengths of the round.
I would look at Nightforce, S&B, Elcan, Leupold, and on the lower end maybe Nikon, and don't leave out IOR. There are others ..not a complete list by any means. There are quite a few choices of 1-4X scopes these days.
Another way is to get a relatively inexpensive fixed power scope (Super Sniper?) and mount irons at a 45˚ angle for BUIS.
Unless you are going to drag your rifle through sand storms, deserts, swamps and all kinds of other cra#. $900.00 for a Acog is just plain crazzy, even $500.00 for a Eotech is outragous. There are pleanty of good 223 scopes on the market, just pick a short one with bullet compensation for drop and have fun and enough money to actually buy ammo for the gun.
Just my 2 cents and a bunch of change.
Jim
This one's setup for out to 500 yards.
This one is for REALLY LONG RANGE.
Just my 2 cents and a bunch of change.
Jim
This one's setup for out to 500 yards.
This one is for REALLY LONG RANGE.
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Nikon M223 series...I have a couple...one on a Bushmaster carry handle M4 style AR carbine (1-4 power), another on a Golani (3-12..came with a flash kill). I also have a S&W M&P Flattop AR - M4 style carbine with a Burris Short Mag 3x9....another great scope...but I am admittedly keeping my eye out for a deal on an ACOG for it.
dogfacepencilneck
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where on earth are you finding a TA01NSN for $600????
Ridge_Runner_5
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I would imagine it was a lot easier over a year and a half ago when this was posted.
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Also check out Primary arms. They have a 1x-4x with lighted reticle which works great. I have one on my AR and when I ordered it I made a mistake with the order. They called me to make sure of what I wanted and made a suggestion which I heeded. They corrected my order all before sending it out to me. Received the order in lest than a week. Great service in my book.