M14

There is a single exception to the "Once a Machinegun Rule" that BATFE has passed. It was also an H&R M14. It was built as a presentation piece, and had NEVER been assembled as a select-fire weapon. The final Federal Court ruled that this particular weapon wasn't, in fact, a machinegun.

The old boy here had what was essentially an M14 with the leg supporting the selector mechanism milled away. Still an M14 receiver. As such, it had to have been registered prior to the 1986 GOPA. Didn't happen, can't keep. :(
 
Wild

Bat f a rt is a colorful metephor for batf or batfe as they are now,sorry.
As the date some where in that story was 1958,
and I cannot post that quote here because I do not know how.
Banned since 1958 is what I remember seeing and will recheck it my self.
 
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6th paragraph,1st and 2nd line,is what I was trying to refer to.
the atf has classified m14 rifle as machine gun since 1958.
I believed the agency did not exsist untill a few yrs later.
 
Wild

I would not know that one as I havent stooped that low yet in calling the cops ,pigs.
Any way ,I was trying to under stand the date ? ,the rest is only me being sarcastic.
What yr was the atf instituted,was it an act of congress or a presidentual decree,? Ex. order?
 
The sentence was probably meant to mean any M14 produced since 1958 is classified as a machinegun. The M14 was type classified in 1957, but didn't enter production until 1958. :)
 
I always thought that Eliot Ness was an ATF (or similar organization) guy...
same idea. Sin taxes on alcohol, guns and tobacco...
 
BATFE: The old farts among us...

...still call them 'F' Troop. but few people would understand the context anymore.
 
The younger generation referes to them as the "Alphabet Boys", Which could also mean CIA, FBI, BATFE.....Probably stolen from another generation....But hey, whogas......
 
As Rich alluded to, ATF (as an organization) did not exist in the year in question. ATF evolved IIRC from another organization in the Treasury Dept-the ATU. ATU was the Alcohol Tax Unit. These were the "G-Men" or "revenuers"<sp> that went after moonshiners from the 1920s(?) to the 1960s.

edited- See Rich's link. Much better information. More accurate than I ever could be also.
 
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