M1 carbine my view

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mikthestick

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I love the way it looks, it recoils very little shoots well out to 300yds ammo is light. All good things.:cool:
I,ts not a good deer cartridge, ok its not a deer cartridge at all so what do you use it for. My guess is coyote perhaps Wolf at a push. If its not a good hunting gun why has it not gone away. Its lack of stopping power on men, its designed target is well advertised but it's still here.
Well if I had to carry a gun, ONLY ONE GUN it would be my choice. The worst case scenario I can Imagine it to be confronted by a big bear at close range. Everyone, even me would suddenly wish for a much more powerful weapon. I think 6 rounds in 2.5secs of M1 carbine 110gr might do the trick.
The carbine is available in wildcat form I would use the 30 kurz round that would increase my survival chance considerably. I can' find any hard and fast velocity powder charges on the net but estimate it to be 2300ft/sec with 110gr spitzer bullets. Perhaps someone could give me that data. I know its not a Bear gun its probably not legal to shoot Bear with it except in emergency. I would never hunt bear even if I was fit to do so.
A carbine based on (looking like) the M1 slightly heavier would be ideal for the more powerful 1.5 inch Barnes cartridge.
 
i have one. i like it. if it were my only gun i wouldn't mind. funny story, grand opening of local cabelas, they had 30 carbine ammo which i believe was mismarked at $2.99 box. i bought everything on the shelf and went back 2 more times to clean them out before they noticed. i ended up with almost 2000 rounds at that price. it was one hell of a sale price :)
 
My father was in the 41st Inf Div in the SP during WWII. He was a big fan of the M1 Carbine, like it better then the Garand in the Jungles.

Guess he felt the same way I felt about the M16A1 I used in the Jungles of SE Asia.

Since I've been shooting my CMP Carbine I'm convinced it is more then capable of killing deer at normal deer hunting ranges.

Except they are illegal for hunting big game in Wyoming.

Their shooters...or at least mine is. Reliable as a good dog.
 
I've always eyed up the M1 Carbines whenever I come across them but have never been able to justify purchasing one. After all I have a handful of ARs that will do everything the M1 does - and ammo is cheaper.

Eventually I will probably end up getting one anyway simply because I LOVE older WWII/Korean War era weapons. For now though money is tight and gun purchases must be kept according to answers of, "What purpose will this gun fulfill?" If the answer none then I can't purchase it.

As it is I'm considering selling my LR-308 because I realized I just don't shoot it as much as I thought I would and that money could be better used in another gun (probably another AR or 1911).
 
Yeah, the technology has moved on...

but we still dig single action revolvers and lever action rifles. Black powder guns. Archery.

I like both of mine. One's a tacticool reproduction, and if I'm honest that one really ought to go to a new home and let a pimped out AR take its place. It's just because it eats the same ammo as my only other centerfire weapon.

It's damn capable, especially with hollow point or soft point rounds. If tshtf, I'd be grateful I had it rather than wishing for an AR.
 
Nostalga. Lots of guys, myself included just plain like older, almost obsolete guns just because of the historical significance. I'm not into M1 carbines or most any military guns, but understand why others are. Same reason I like leverguns, longbows, and traditional muzzle loaders. None are the best tool for the job in 2012, but still work and are enjoyable to use.
 
I like the looks of them, and the light small platform of them. I keep telling myself that someday I will break down to buy one, just a fun shooter.

Oh and with the proper bullets in them I am sure they are more than capable of dropping deer if the person pulling the trigger is a decent shot in the field when it counts. Same goes for two legged threats.

Though If I get one it will be purely a shooter. Though it may end up a ride with me in the truck gun when out at the family farm.
 
I'm a big M1C fan and love my two Inland GI carbines. However, it's another one of those "it is what it is" guns/cartridges--perhaps obvious statement about lots of things, but a perspective often glossed over. IOW, attempting to make it something it isn't. I have no doubt about the one-shot deer kills mentioned, but it'd take a darn good shot (with less margin) and did, I'd say, in those instances. States that limit the cartridge for medium game hunting are likely doing so largely based on muzzle and/or retained energy downrange, and it's there where it falls down--compared with larger (longer cased) fare. Those that say deer are fairly thin skinned animals, not that hard to kill and therefore should be as "easy" to bring down as the two-leggeds the cartridge was designed for "within its effective range"--a common "pro" argument--are missing it IMO. I'd certainly not orient a "planned" (tag) deer hunt around it. If it's all you've got either don't hunt, or buy or borrow something more appropriate. That said, among carbine types, I wouldn't hesitate to take mine into a (ideally sub-bear) wilderness survival situation "if I had to" (meaning, if a .30-30, Mini 30 or 14/6.8 etc were not available) where I'd be less cncerned with a "humane" kill than that I normally would be....and more concerned with putting some kind of meat on the fire at whatever cost.

Why hasn't it gone away? History. Nostalgia. Great low recoil-but-centerfire plinking fun (ammo cost notwithstanding) and, especially with modern soft points, among rifles, just about the handiest and most effective--I'd argue--HD piece around. I've shot the carbine for over forty years. It makes a great short range varminter and pester, coyoter and, I've heard, does a creditable job on close-in bobcat and mountain lion and hence, I'd assume, wolf. I've tromped the Arizona desert and mid altitude country for years with the carbine without concern. Versus an unfortunate encounter with bear (of any color) 5, 10 or 15 rounds of 110 (I'd think hardball) would be better than a stick or a few to several .357 out of a revo (not saying handier at close/panic range)--and one round just might find an ear canal, eye socket or other vital spot. (Not recommending :) ).

Nothing beats an M1 carbine--within its limitations...which are longer or broader than many give credit for, but fall short, IMO, of deer on a regular basis.
 
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I have my father's D-Day Carbine. In Korea on occupation duty, we were issued M2s, which were truly fun-toys. I occasionally could "liberate" a 600-round canister from the arms shack and go to the beach at Inchon and discuss reality with seagulls. :) Made for a de-stressful day.
 
Somewhere on the forum there's a picture of a hunter with two real big grizzlys. The guy is holding an M1 carbine.

Fun guns.
 
Somewhere on the forum there's a picture of a hunter with two real big grizzlys. The guy is holding an M1 carbine.
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:eek:

Either very brave or very foolish.

I've taken deer at close range with my Carbine, under 50 yds. Typical distance in heavy brush here in the PNW.

This does not get the round count that my AR's get but it's a hoot to shoot and it doesn't give up a thing to the evil black guns.

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I had an M2 with a folding stock just like that in Vietnam. Gave it to my friend Mr. Ha just before I left on March 29, 1973, the "last day." Also gave him a bunch of ammo and a few .45s. Never have heard how he made out.

Is that the original leather?
 
gak, just as an FYI, an M1C is an M1 Garand sniper rifle :)

I feel the M1 carbine is nearly a perfect little rifle. Tech has moved on in some ways but let's face it the premise is the same. My own M1 carbine made in 1943 is about as reliable as the sunrise. I wish ammo were as cheap as .223 though
 
My father carried an m-1c in WWII. It saved his life on more than one occassion. When I get mine it will complete my WWII collection. It will set next to my Garrand and my Enfield which sets next to my Mosein.

Bishop gunstocks used to have a niffity thumbhole stock for the Carbine.
 
The Carbine is a lot of fun to shoot. It is a fine defensive and anti-pest arm within 100 yds. And it has combat proven character. At its current price it would not be my first choice, but I would not mind if it was all I had either. Not everyone takes to the AR or full size rifle like a Garand or M1A. But every new shooter I have seen enjoys the light, compact, simple, good sighted, low recoil M1Carbine.
 
Within this thread, my understanding that the M1c is an abbreviation for M1 Carbine. In normal world talk, M1C is the Griffin & Howe scope base & ring equipped sniper rifle.

My second carbine acquisition was not under the most happy circumstance. A coworker needed money and sold me his Saginaw with spare paratrooper folding stock for four bills.
 
Chris_B said:
"gak, just as an FYI, an M1C is an M1 Garand sniper rifle I feel the M1 carbine is nearly a perfect little rifle. Tech has moved on in some ways but let's face it the premise is the same. My own M1 carbine made in 1943 is about as reliable as the sunrise. I wish ammo were as cheap as .223 though."

Thanks for pointing that out. Gotta be careful. Outside of an M1 Carbine thread, for instance, M1--without any other clarifier--is almost always thought to be the Garand unless stated otherwise. Hopefully most folks know what I meant in trying to abbreviate within the context but ya never know! +1 on your reliability comment. Not one hitch in 60 + years of shooting (my dad and I combined) of my 44 Inland except for some junk ammo hanging up and a few ill-advised aftermarket 15 and 30 rd mags (that was several years ago; I've recently picked up a few new Korean 15 rd mags that are claimed to finally match the good ol' GI's rep for reliability--but I have yet to try).
 
I love my 2 War Babys. I am glad I found out about the CMP before it was too late. I have an Inland that was a Greek return, and Bavarian Forestry Police return. I think it's a Standard Products, but I can't remember off the top of my head. It had that disgusting yucky varnish on the stock, though. It was like the coating on M&M's. Ugh...
 
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