M-1 Question

mikey10mm

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Just picked up my second M-1 from Camp Perry, Brought it home for the Cosmoline clean up. Gas plug came right out, cleaned the gun, gas plug super hard to get back in. I need most of my strength and the biggest screwdriver I have to get it threaded 5 or 6 times, but it will come right back out. I can assure you it is NOT cross threaded. The question I have - is this a concern regarding the pressures involved.

I have tried to clean the threads and so forth without any luck. Should I replace the plug or not concern myself?? Any help would be appreciated.

Thank You.
 
Something is really wrong.

I'd suggest first calling the CMP. They will either replace the rifle, or send you the parts to fix it free.
 
M1

Dear Shooter:
I'm not an M-1 man (other than carrying one in ROTC and NROTC) but could you be compressing the op-rod and spring?
Are you sure the threads O.K. - you say in goes in hard and comes right back out? Do you mean the threads don't catch and hold? or does the screw unscrew right out?
Are you putting the op-rod spring on before you screw this in?
Harry B.:o
 
It's the damnest thing I've ever seen. It litterally takes a ton of force to tighten and minimal to remove in comparison, please keep in mind there is some resistance, just not as much. The threads are OK, I went around them with dental picks thinking they were boogered up, but they seem fine. I've inspected the threads with my borelight and cannot find a cross thread.
I'm not sure what to do, except to not fire the weapon.
 
Take the gas cylinder off the end of the rifle yet? Clamp it in a vise and screw the plug in and out. Any better? If not something is FUBAR in the threads or tolerances of the two parts in which case I'd get some new parts. If it is much easier then there is likely something wrong with the gas piston of the op rod.

Also, is the gas port open? ie not plugged up with dry cosmoline?

Mike
 
A better tool might be a 1/4 inch rachet with an extension.....yes it works.

I think there might be something not going on right as well. Is the Gas cly seated all the way down? Bolt opened or closed?
 
Thanks

I appreciate everyones input and used alittle from all. The ratchet idea worked awesome. I dont know what happened, I probably missed some dried cosmo or boogers or something, but after doing alittle of everything there is a vast improvement. still feels like a small "high" spot in the threads half way down, but then loosens the rest of the way, I think it will be OK. I thank each and every one of you


Michael
 
This can happen if the gun was fired much with the gas cylinder plug loose. Carbon builds up in the valleys of the threads on both parts, but is biased outward by the gas direction. Unscrewing the thread is easy, but screwing it in loosens bits of the hard carbon residue and it then jams on re-entry. I don't know why this isn't equal and opposite on the plug and cylinder, but may have to do with slight differences in the cast and billet steel causing the carbon to stick to one better than to the other?

I recently started in on two CMP Garands. In both cases some considerable carbon was present in the gas cylinders and on the plugs. I tried the Slip 2000 gas cylinder cleaner for the first time and found that it performs as advertised; actually softening the carbon into sludge that can be brushed out. You might try this product if any carbon traces persist? They can be hard to see down in the thread valleys. I don't know of anything else, including carburator cleaners (I've tried many, inlcuding the strong immersion soaking Berryman's), that get carbon out the way the Slip 2000 product does. Nonetheless, to find out if this is the problem before ordering the cleaner, try spraying the gas cylinder threads and the gas plug threads with a strong penetrant, like PB Blaster, then running the plug in and out a few times, using the ratchet if necessary. Then wipe it all off with a white paper towel. If carbon in the thread valleys is the villain, you will see at least some black come off on the towel.

Also, check to see whether there is a gas leak channel apparent in the threads. If so, the parts need to be replaced if you don't want the problem to reappear. If you don't mind the reappearance, then don't worry about it. This presents no hazard; just a cleaning nuisance.

Nick
 
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