Lucid HD7 Review

Mrgunsngear

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I've had the Lucid HD7 for some time now and have been putting it through some informal testing to see how it compares to other red dot optics on the market. I'm happy to report---so far, so good.

I picked this optic up on Amazon for $190 including shipping. I also ordered the optional magnifier to see how usefull it would be for engaging targets out past 100 meters. The HD7 has a built in 1913 rail mount designed to provide a lower 1/3 "co-witness" (obviously not a true co-witness but your irons will still be functional should the sight stop working...) with most flat top ARs. It comes with the AAA battery needed to power the unit. I'm a big fan of using traditional batteries instead of the more expensive lithium batteries that most manufactures are using these days. I know they have their advantages, but in my opinion, standard batteries are just more availible for the average user that is more likely to go to Walmart than to a store specializing in 'tactical' gear. The HD7 offers 4 reticles; a traditional dot, dot with circle, cross hairs, and a hybrid of the cross and circle type reticle. I'm a fan of the single dot, but that isn't to say the other options aren't without merit.

The optic has several other features that are worth noting: It has an automatic shut off that turns the optic off after 2 hours of inactivity, it has an light sensor which automatically adjusts the brightness of the optic (which you can manually over-ride), it's parallax free, and has a lifetime warranty which I hear is honored by the company although I obviously haven't had to use it...

I mounded the HD7 on my M&P 15 PSX rifle. This rifle is bone stock except for a trigger polishing and trigger spring replacement I did upon purchasing it (that took the pull from over 9lbs to around 6lbs currently). The manal doesn't specify how many ft/lbs of torque are best for mounting so I just finger tightened and did a half turn with a wrench beyond that.

Range time: I initially zeroed at 50 meters and was getting excellent groups for cheap surplus ammo. I was using Brown Bear 62gr soft point ammo and getting 1.5-2 inch groups so no complaints from me. The HD& offers 1/2 moa adjustment clicks so zeroing was quick and easy, especially when you boresight it ahead of time!

Upon zeroing it, I started engaging 100 meter targets. I was getting 4-5'' groups which is good for me with a non-free float 16'' AR and cheap ammo. I then dropped the rifle from arms length (I'm 6'0'' tall) a few times to see if the optic would maintain zero---it did. I switched between all 4 reticles to see if POI would be affected---it wasn't.

Next step--200 meter targets with the optional magnifier. The magnifier did not change POI at all. I maintained similar accuracy getting 8-11'' groups (mild crosswinds seemed to play a role here out at further distances...). I'm no sniper and this surely isn't a sniper rifle so I'm pleased with the results.

Having used various high end optics at work (Aimpoints, ACOGs, EOtechs, ect...) I would say this is on par with any of them at a fraction of the price. I realize it hasn't been put through the stress those optics are subjected to on a day-to-day basis but for your average shooter who wants to hunt, have a good SD/HD rifle, or compete in a weekend 3 gun competition this is a great value. I really don't have anything bad to say so far about this optic and will be leaving it on my personal HD AR15 for what that's worth.

For more pics and the original review, check out my review page...

http://gunreviewguy.blogspot.com/2012/01/lucid-hd7-red-dot-optic.html
 
The only things I don't like about the HD7 are that you can't put a kill-flash on it, and the turrets aren't the return-to-zero type. Other than that, they appear to be great scopes. It would also be nice if the rubber coating was available in tan/FDE.
 
Great writeup. I want one, and so far, nobody has discovered anything major to gripe about.

While tactical accessories are important to some, this isn't that optic. If anything, I'd like to see what it's like without armor at all, which may not work out with the switching. From what everyone has posted over the last two years, its certainly head and shoulders above the 1Gen Aimpoint I've owned since the late '70's. Every single fault on that unit is now eliminated from a "derivative" company - for the same money I spent then.

Progress marches on.
 
I agree with the killflash comment and more colors are always welcome. I'd also like some flip up lens covers but it's not a dealbreaker for me. I imagine those features are missing as a result of trying to keep costs down while maintaining high quality---I've got no complaints about that mindset.
 
A few of us TFLers did similar testing and had a discussion not to long ago. Here is a link to the thread. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=471316

I have mine mounted on a factory SR556E and I have posted a 100 yard target as well.

I did find that after zeroing at 50 yrds, I needed to adjust down at 100yrds. I was using cheap PMC 55 gr. FMJ ammo. The POI was 6" high.

As you can see by the target, after getting on, it did quite well at 100.

I flipped through the reticles and it seemed to keep zero quite well. Because I did not buy the magnifier, I used the circle dot reticle for the rapid fire test at 100, my eyes are'nt what they used to be.
 
I'd also like some flip up lens covers...

I got an email from Jason about flip up lens covers, and he gave me some part numbers for some that fit the scope. When I get home tonite, I'll post that info here.

I've pretty much decided that I'm gonna get a couple HD7s, but I just know that as soon as I get them, Lucid will release their Gen 2 scope, and I'll be stuck with two new Gen 1s that nobody will want.

Life is funny that way. :)
 
jsimmons - If you truly have a GEN 1 HD7 I would be more than happy to swap them out for you with Gen II. We want the GEN 1 HD7's back and off the market completely.

Thank you & Best Regards,

Jason Wilson | Primary & Founder of LUCID
www.mylucidgear.com | jason@mylucidgear.com | 307.840.2160
235 Fairway Drive, Riverton, WY 82501
 
I ordered one this weekend is expected to arrive tomorrow. This will be my first optic on my AR, looked hard at Aimpoint but since my LMT is basically a fun plinker I couldn't convince myself to spend the extra dough. All of the reviews I read on the Lucid are positive. Looking forward to seeing how it performs.
 
Here's the body of the email I got from Jason regarding HD7 lens covers:

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I use Butler Creeks for the HD7. They do a outstanding job with lens covers.

Objective - 23 OBJ, with a slight mod for the area above the battery cap.
Ocular - 05 EYE
Ocular with the 2x magnifier, 03A EYE


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I use Butler Creeks on all of my other scopes, and they do in fact make great lens covers
 
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jsimmons - If you truly have a GEN 1 HD7 I would be more than happy to swap them out for you with Gen II. We want the GEN 1 HD7's back and off the market completely.

I don't have a HD7 yet. I just assumed that the current one being sold is a Gen1. I was originally intending to get a couple of Aimpoints, but I've decided to get HD7's instead. They're not that much heavier than the CompM3 PRO I was going to get, and the batteries are easier to find. :)
 
jsimmons--thanks for the info on the covers. I just placed an order for them and will let you know how they fit/function on the HD7 once I get it.
 
I've had my Lucid HD7 for several months now. I love just about everything about it. My only complaint, if you can call it that, is that it's a bit heavy. That's not a big issue and it really depends on your gun/purpose.

I also have the Bushnell TRS-25 micro dot, and just delivered yesterday was the Primary Arms gen8 micro dot (you can see pics of that in my Daniel Defense M4 V4 thread.)

The Lucid seems like a very well made product. I've heard people put it down because of the whole 'Made in China' thing - which I can appreciate... but you know what? It works and it works well. I love the brightness adjust buttons ala EOTech compared to the click adjust of most micro dot designs.

I think the next one I'd like to try is the Vortex SPARC, which comes in at just about the exact same price point as the HD7. The only issue I see is that the SPARC has their 'night vision' button mounted right next to the brightness up/down buttons so it's very easy to actuate.... I've heard that they may revise this part of the design. If that happens, I'll be one of the first to buy one.
 
As for the Made in China thing, a lot of the red dots on the market are made in that same plant. And from a reliable source, so are some parts for Eotechs and Aimpoint.

Unless it's Berry Compliant on a military contract, makers can't and won't guarantee YOUR aftermarket scope is 100% Made in the USA. My Gen1 Aimpoint was labeled Made in Sweden.

Pick up your laptop and read the country of origin. Check the back of your flatscreen. Pull the battery pack out of your cell phone. Read where most of the parts in your car were really made, and how little of it needs to actually be Made in the USA to qualify.

A recent article online showed 6 of the low priced 1911 clones weren't Made in the US - Brazil and Turkey. And Winchester 94's are now a custom shop item from Japan.

Funny how the American Patriot rattles his sabre, and it's likely made in Toledo, Spain. We're really in deep denial about it. The Army can't buy running shoes Made in the US and is actually searching for vendors. Did anyone notice?

Annnnyway, I want a HD7.
 
I try to buy American made, but understand that you can't always do so. That said, I try to avoid anything made in China. That country's government has very little respect for it's people and I don't want to wonder whether or not it was assembled by a 9 year old kid who gets paid enough to buy himself a tablespoon of rice every day.

A friend of mine bought one of these recently. I tried it out and it seems to be a good product, but I can't bring myself to drop the cash on it for the above reasons.
 
I try to buy American made, but understand that you can't always do so.

From what I understand, the entire manufacturing process for Henry rifles uses American materials machined and assembled by American workers. Now THAT is a product you can get behind.
 
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