USAF Ret said:Was told Nosler long range Accubonds open at 1300 fps.
Will do!Check out SimpleMindedFella on YouTube. I’m sure they do in at test that keeps them stable at 1300fps.
The problem is most aerodynamic bullets tumble around 1500 fps ...
Watching the Norma Tipstrike 170 grain. I have a couple hundred of those on hand. At 1680, very impressive. Thanks for pointing me to the channel.After, according to his testing which makes them marginally lethal if you buy into the theory of expansion and straight line penetration as key factors in killing.
Very good information. Thank you.Is "marginally lethal" like being "slightly pregnant"??
or is it like "less lethal" which is only part of the term "less likely to be lethal" which gives a distorted and inaccurate impression?
Every bullet that is longer than it is wide will yaw, and eventually tumble after striking something. Where the differences come in is in how much, and how soon (in inches of travel through the target).
Some calibers and bullet designs are more stable plowing through tissue than others. And if the bullet doesn't reach its "upset point" inside the tissue, but after it exits, most folks assume it doesn't tumble, but it does, just not where it can be seen. And when that happens, most assume they don't tumble, instead of realizing they just haven't tumbled yet.
Nosler partition bullets are famously effective at lower velocities, because the forward portion can be made "soft" to expand at low speeds while the reat portion retains full mass and "pushes" them to achieve good penetration.
I'd say that non expanding or low expanding bullets are not "marginally lethal" they absolutely do kill. They're not as efficient as expanding bullets, but that doesn't make them any less deadly.
Nathan, that YouTube channel has the wealth of info I was looking for. Thanks!!Check out SimpleMindedFella on YouTube. I’m sure they do in at test that keeps them stable at 1300fps.
Long range decreased velocity in a shorter range. I am not going subsonic. I am just loading reduced recoil loads that will probably have a max range of about 250 yards with 270, 308 and 7mm-08. I have medical issues that are amplified by recoil. I am also looking at getting a suppressor to reduce the sound concussion to make it more comfortable to shoot. I have several very nice 270 rifles, specifically, I cannot put a muzzle brake or suppressor on. They are light weight. I love the rifles, but the recoil is too much for me. While I could just go to my 6.5 Creedmoor and Grendel, I do not want to get rid of them and don't want them just sitting in the safe.Are you looking for "long range, decreased velocity" type performance?
Or appropriate for subsonic loads?
Open to your wisdom sir.Reasonable.
And the clarification helps.
I'll think about this.
I have several very nice 270 rifles, specifically, I cannot put a muzzle brake or suppressor on.