Lose your guns after becoming a victim?

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Does anyone know of, or have an estimate of how many people have become "felons" after using a firearm to defend themselves?

It seems that even in the best of instances, you have the right to defend yourself, only until you have to; then you're done.

I'm wondering if were not creating a population of people who are prohibited from owning firearms because of the crimes committed by others?
 
All firearm related incidences go in front of a grand jury. Until a person is cleared of any wrongdoing, their right to carry a firearm is revoked and the firearm in question is detained by authorities. This is for anyone, including police. They get two investigations, grand jury and internal affairs. No firearms till both investigations are complete and they are cleared.

Robert
 
As well, the Brady data and much of the "criminal" data is raw data that only shows the original charge as part of the data and not the eventual outcome. See Jacobs & Potter, Northwestern University (1995), and the General Accounting Office report on Brady from last year.

Rick
 
A year or two ago in either Arizona or Texas a man used his Glock to save an officer's life.

As part of the investigation, the gun was confiscated for evidence.

The officers on the involved police force took up an out-of-pocket donation to buy the man a replacement gun.

Also some years ago, also in the West, an antelope hunter happened to see a criminal and a cop duking it out. The criminal got the cop's gun, and was showing every sign of shooting the cop when the hunter put one into the criminal's mellon at several hundred yards.

The police protected the man's identity (I don't think he was ever identified), and issued him the basic equivilent of "you're bullet proof in the eyes of this police department" status for life.
 
Mike, the first one was in Arizona and, unfortunately, the officer died. But, his department did buy the hero in that case a new Glock 31. As for the antelope hunter, I'd love to hear the whole story on that one and to buy that guy a beer.

As for me, if they want to confiscate my firearm, that's fine as long as I've got a receipt. I assume that I'll be protected in their custody and I KNOW that I'll be protected after I get home.

By the way, you don't lose your right to a weapon simply because you go to the grand jury.
 
I heard (from a cop in TX) that the hunter involved got a pair of matched engraved Berettas.

(and anonymity despite DA/media pressure)

Battler.
 
~4 years ago I happened upon a break-in attempt at my farm house. 2 substance-abusing, not-too-bright perps -one was combative and I pulled my handgun. The other guy (on probation and not wanting trouble that day) talked his friend into leaving.
A 911 call was answered right away and they were caught less than a mile away.
A sheriffs deputy pulls up in my drive and his first words were "do you have a firearm?" Yes, unloaded on the seat of my truck. Then he read me my rights and locked my Browning in the trunk of the cruiser!
The handgun was delivered to me the next day by the same dep. after clearing with his super and the county states atty.
at least I wasn't charged with anything But damn what a strange feeling!
 
Buzz,

That's right, I forgot the officer died. Damn.

As for the Texas one, a friend of mine who is a cop says that it happened in the late 1970s. I distinctly remember a blurb being run in The Armed Citizen, but I'll be darned if I can remember the month or year.

As for citizens stopping to help, a very good friend of mine is a cop with US Park Police.

He's not very big, and was getting the worst of it when he stopped two guys for DUI one evening. Things go bad, and he's getting the crap kicked out of him, and knowing that his back up is about 15 minutes away, he's really thinking that he's going to have to kill or be killed.

Then, the cavalry arrived, in the form of 6 US Marines who were out for a night on the town. They proceeded to stomp, rack, and pack these two guys right down to their socks.
 
I'm sure most of you are familiar with the Emerson case currently pending, but for those that aren't, read here:
http://www.saf.org/EmersonViewOptions.html

Essentially, it's a case over something very similar to what you're describing -- someone losing his RKBA without trial etc. It's also the first really serious, dead-on 2nd amendment case since Miller back in the 30's, and could prove Hugely influential. . my bet is it'll decide far more, one way or the other, than any amount of legislation we're worrying over now.

SO the answer to your question ..can you lose your guns without committing a crime? Well, we're waiting to find out.
 
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