I'm looking for suggestions or first-hand accounts on a good, high powered, sub-MOA rifle. This is for target shooting. Ranges will be 300+. I Doubt I'll be shooting more than 600 but want something that's capable of more. That's mostly for "cool factor" and probably not because I'll be shooting that far. The rifles I'm considering right now, to give you an idea of price range, are the Remington 700, Weatherby Vanguard, and Savage 10FLP. I'm looking for 7mm rem mag or .300 win mag. I don't want anything smaller. So any thoughts on these three rifles or any other suggestions would be appreciated. Major factors are price (same range as the three mentioned) and availability of aftermarket parts for customization and accuracy improvement.
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savagelover
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the calibers you are talking are way too much for what yoou need....if your gonna be doing any prone shooting which you may,,you gonna have your shoulder down arond your ash....At that range a 22 cal is all you need once you get the drift of the wind figured out..Or a good 25 cal is plenty....only my opinion....john
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Since you're are not looking for anything smaller as you stated,I would go with the 7mm mag probably because that's what I hunt with mainly and it shoots very little groups for me with a lot less recoil than the 300 win. mag.
If I were looking for just a target rifle punching paper?
I would look into a 22cal. say a 223,22-250,or 220 swift? Also 243 or a 6mm rem are good choice for the ranges you specified,larger bullets one could look at the 260 rem or the 7mm-08 for less recoil.
All of the above choices will cost less to shoot with less recoil than the 7mm rem mag or 300 win mag
I also agree Remington or Savage
If I were looking for just a target rifle punching paper?
I would look into a 22cal. say a 223,22-250,or 220 swift? Also 243 or a 6mm rem are good choice for the ranges you specified,larger bullets one could look at the 260 rem or the 7mm-08 for less recoil.
All of the above choices will cost less to shoot with less recoil than the 7mm rem mag or 300 win mag
I also agree Remington or Savage
If you plan to shoot much you better reload as both the calibers you've chosen would run quite expensive on factory ammo. I'm guessing this is for hunting because honestly if its not your wasting money either way. 5.56 is plenty for punching paper at 600yds as is the .308 both are affordable and if your reloading you wouldn't have to waste so much uneeded powder. Another factor is barrel life which is going to be greatly reduced with a magnum
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Art Eatman
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Of the two choices, I'd go with the 7mm. Reload to find the best load for small groups. Odds are that any of the rifles can be tweaked to be accurate. Usually, the most that's needed would be floating the barrel and then maybe a light-pressure shim at the tip of the forearm.
That was my general process for sub-MOA at 500 with my Wby Mk V in '06; medium-weight sporter barrel.
Modern butt pads are truly fine for taming felt recoil.
That was my general process for sub-MOA at 500 with my Wby Mk V in '06; medium-weight sporter barrel.
Modern butt pads are truly fine for taming felt recoil.
I do reload. my favorite weapons are my .41 mag blackhawk and my enfield .303 british. reloading has been a required for a while. I also have weaker rifles already. i'm wanting a variety. one think i don't own is something in that higher power. 7mm is likely what i'll choose and it's sounding like the remington is the way to go. there are also plenty of aftermarket parts out there for it.
If I was you I'd get a .308. It will go further than your 600 yard practical limit. .308 is cheaper than the two options listed and easier to shoot more of. If you're interested in aftermarket support you can drop the Weatherby from your list. Remington 700 or Savage 10 are where you need to be. Plus for an accurate Weatherby you'd want the Sub-Moa Vanguard anyway which is more money.
My vote is for the Rem 700 in .308. It may not be quite as accurate as the Savage out of the box but there is more aftermarket support. Then again all you really need for the Savage is a stock and you're set. It's already got the accutrigger.
Still, if it were me. I'd be buying the Remington 700.
My vote is for the Rem 700 in .308. It may not be quite as accurate as the Savage out of the box but there is more aftermarket support. Then again all you really need for the Savage is a stock and you're set. It's already got the accutrigger.
Still, if it were me. I'd be buying the Remington 700.
If you are talking hunting, those are two good rounds. If just target shooting, then go for it, but you're absorbing more recoil than you need to. Personally for target shooting out to 600 yds, I'd go with 243Win or something in that class.
If hunting deer, I'd go 7mm. If elk or game larger than deer, 300WM.
While I like both Rem and Savage, Rem has wider availability of aftermarket parts. However, Savage you can do ALL of the work yourself (rebarrel etc). So which to choose becomes largely a matter of how much of your budget you want to spend on a 'smith.
If hunting deer, I'd go 7mm. If elk or game larger than deer, 300WM.
While I like both Rem and Savage, Rem has wider availability of aftermarket parts. However, Savage you can do ALL of the work yourself (rebarrel etc). So which to choose becomes largely a matter of how much of your budget you want to spend on a 'smith.
and Savage 10FLP said:
The Savage 10 FLP is a left handed police rifle, normally found in .308 and not currently catalogued. As you say you're looking for a long range rifle in 7mm mag or .300WM, then might I suggest that you look at the 111 Long Range Hunter, which is available in both of those calibers.
My son has a Model 111 FV in 7mm Rem Mag. It's no longer cataloged, but closely resembles the Long Range Hunter. It's a synthetic stocked, heavy barrel Accutrigger model and he is very, very deadly with that rifle. His groups routinely average under 1/2 inch with the handload we've worked for the cartridge, using 140 Nosler Ballistic Tip bullets and IMR 4831 powder.