Looking for a M82 (Barrett .50 Cal) type muzzle break... for a revolver.

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adephue

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I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get a muzzle break like the one on the M82 Barrett .50 Cal sniper rifle... like this one:

What I want to do is have it mounted on the end of my Taurus Raging Bull .500 S&W Magnum (10" barrell). There is about a 3/4 inch area after the barrel that has 8 little vents. This opening in larger than the actual barrell so I am hoping there is a way to thread this area and attach the muzzle break.

Anyone know where I can pick up just the muzzle break?
 
500 muzzle-break

Dear Shooter:
I've shot the 500 in a Smith with the short bbl and it was really not worse than my 44 maggie.
Really, if you need a muzzle-break to shoot your Raging Bull (fine guns) get a lighter caliber!
Harry B.
 
Its not about the recoil, but thank-you for assuming so anyway. The Taurus has a very comfortable grip with a cushion insert which makes recoil very manageable. If I could do anything about recoil it would be to make the grip slightly smaller so that I can get just a little better grasp on it.

I want to add the muzzle break mostly for aesthetic purposes. I don't know about other handgun owners, but I like to have just one weapon that has some accessories that I can show off. My long-term plan for the Taurus is to get some kind of muzzle break that you would only find on a big-caliber rifle. Then I plan to mount a scope to it. Since the barrel is so long, I may also mount a small bipod... but it would have to be one that really accentuates the look of the weapon.

I'm not a gunsmith, so I was hoping to find other members who could give me some idea as to whether:

a) is somehting like this even possible...
b) if possible, is it feasible (not going to cost me 2K or more)...
c) if possible & feasible... where can I get it done.

I figured it would only take a short time for someone to interject opinion when what I am looking for is fact. Thanks for playing though. Anyone else have any constructive advice here???
 
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Take the good with the bad even if you don't appreciate the advice. You didn't go into all the detail about you like to show off with your gun and want to put an accessory on your gun just for the cool looks. Kind of like an old saying, boys with their toys will be boys, but to each his own. Thanks fo playing along with us!!

I wouldn't advise a tripod mounted out on the barrel. You can use a set of folding sticks under the frame unless you just aren't man enough to hold up the big old revolver with the great big scope and muzzlebrake mounted on the end of it.

I like mine better without the scope mounted on it simply because it limits the field of view so much that on a close shot, you might not be able to even see the whole animal or target, but like you said, this one is yours.
 
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Take the good with the bad even if you don't appreciate the advice.
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Great advice 1289, perfectly applicable to your worthlessly innoculous input. Looks like as long as Harry B. keeps his distance from my query for consturctive advice here, you will follow suit.

In other news, the gunsmith at Pinnacle Guns thinks he can manufacture a muzzle break similar to the one on the M82, but I am not understanding his approach to completing this task; from what I understand he wants to thread the barrel on the outside but other Raging Bull owners know that the barrell has a covering that is 'elliptical' (for lack of a better term) in shape.

Anyone here think it would be possible to thread the inside of this area at the end of the muzzle and mount a muzzle break that way? Anyone else know how the M82 muzzle is attached?
 
I think what you are trying to build is what I would term a "novelty" gun, rather than trying to improve upon the gun's practicality. Many gun shows that are large will have a novelty gun or two built by custom shops to showcase their fabrication capabilities. Approach one of these outfits with your project if you like their other work? I suggest this because fabricating a one-of-a-kind anything is very time consuming, since no manufacturing jigs or fixtures exist for the parts. So if you care about the quality of the work (why else have it done?) this will either be very expensive or a labor of love on the gunsmith's part.

Also, be aware that you are venturing into an area analogous to the bikes created on American Chopper. The emphasis will be on interesting appearance and unusual features, but real performance in a racing environment will likely not result. As the others said, a bipod, while cute, may affect accuracy adversely. Same with a muzzle brake design untried with your chambering. The .50 BMG clamshells are designed for a round that generates much more gas volume and pressure at the muzzle than a handgun round will do, so there is no guarantee it will actually work well for you, either. Nothing is for certain. Just be aware you are assuming some risk of deteriorated performance.

All that said, if you find someone to fabricate the clamshell muzzle brake, then I think you could get its threaded stem machined to match the Taurus's shroud profile. Have the original shroud cut away down behind the front sight and muzzle port and far enough to expose an inch of the true barrel. This last inch can be given very fine threads. The clamshell position on the threads has to be timed to get it horizontal anyway, so aligning the extension of the shroud on the underside is inherent in the work. This underside portion can then be tapped and drilled for a sling swivel stud for attaching a short Harris bipod. The front sight could then be reattached on the clamshell shroud or set back onto the original shroud behind the clamshell. You might leave the original off and attach a military rifle front sight on top of the clamshell for more novelty. The top of the shroud extension could have extra metal for a split male dovetail and set screw to accept a standard M1 Garand or M14 front sight. You could consider a second sling swivel stud in front of the bipod and a third in the grip frame, like an old-fashioned lanyard loop. You could then attach a carry/hasty sling for lugging the piece into the field (you may need it) and for position support shooting standing.

An alternative to an extended shroud profile would be a round stem on the muzzle brake. There is an adapter for Harris bipods for that. It is shown on the TC pistol on the left end of the second photo down, here. This approach would expose some hollow from the original shroud, however, so a cover would have to be made.

It would be a pile of work, probably more expensive than many custom guns, if done well, and may result in disappointing accuracy and dubious utility. But it would look interesting and unique. Just as long a you understand that looks are the primary objective and you have the money burning a hole in your pocket anyway, then go for it. Taurus will be happy to sell you a replacement gun if it doesn’t pan out.

Good luck,

Nick
 
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Yes, I'm still here and still feel the same way!
CNTRYBOY 1289 is right on - it's trying to make an impression with your gun! Real shooters don't do this!
Your Taurus is ported anyway and a 500 or 480 or 44 mag, makes a big enough impression anyway!
I think the only thing that will hold that brake on is THREADS! To do that you destroy the guns muzzle!
If you want this do it - but real pistoleros will laugh!
Didn't mean to upset you!
Harry B.
 
Harry B.:
it's trying to make an impression with your gun!
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I get the impression that you find something wrong with this. What is it? Can shooters not have a gun to show off? Must they all be purely utilitarian and Spartian?

Real shooters don't do this
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Really? "Real shooters" do not have a prized gun they have just because of the way it looks? I highly doubt it. Also, does this mean, then, that someone with an AR-15 with a forward assit, ejection port cover, folding sights, holographic scope, four tac rails, a mounted light, a laser sight, and a bayonet is not a real shooter? What if the same person can nail the X ring at 50yrds with a handgun and at 300yrds with a rifle using open sights. Is he not a "real shooter"?

This is also interesting because an instructor I had once was a superior shot and happend to have a very nice, shall we say assecorized, Les Baer handgun that was his showpiece. I fail to see how this negates his shooting ability just because he has a gun he likes to show off.

a 500 or 480 or 44 mag, makes a big enough impression anyway
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What is wrong with wanting to make a bigger impression?

the only thing that will hold that brake on is THREADS
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Adephue already knows this:
I am hoping there is a way to thread this area and attach the muzzle break.
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His question is about where/how and the feasability of modifying his handgun to accomodate the break using the widened area of the porting and, if this is possible, where it can be done.

To do that you destroy the guns muzzle
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Which is why this thread was posted to begin with... to see the if his idea of threading the ported area of the handgun would be possible, thus resulting in the end of the barrel not being affected.

but real pistoleros will laugh
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Somehow, I don't see a S&W 500 chambered handgun with a 10" barrel being used in cowboy shoot matches, so I don't see how they could laugh at something not being used around them.*

*This post is not intended to insult you, but is merely intended to clarify some statements in your posts.
 
Harry... go away.

If I ever get the itch to query TFL's membership for a definitive case-ending snapshot on what exactly delineates the superior shooter class of 'real pistoleros', I'll PM you a week in advance with my anticipated posting timeframe so you can be at your terminal ready to impart upon us just a sliver your omniscience on such a obviously cut-and-dry topic. For some reason, your distinct inability to ratiocinate some type of plausibly applicable basis for social interaction (at least on an internet forum) specifically as it relates to what constructs the fine line between constructive opinionated criticism and brazenly absurd obnoxiousness, really just causes me to adopt some level of saddened nebulous pity for you. Hard to explain, but good luck anyway.

Unclenick, thank-you for your insightfulness on this. Like I said before (I think), I'm not a gunsmith, so a drop in performance never crossed my mind. I had hoped, just by looking at it, that the muzzle break could thread into the area where the porting is without having to remove any part of the muzzle. It appears that will not be the case. I don't intend to have anything chopped off of the end anytime soon or degrade the weapon's performance... not for what I paid for the weapon and how hard it was to get ahold of (ten dealers told me they could not get ahold of one until at least spring '07).

If it comes down to chopping anything off the weapon, the m82 flavor of the project will probably nixed in favor of something less intrusive. That said, I am definately open to any suggestions. At this point I am looking for a muzzle break or flash suppressor that will make the weapon look completely unique but not denegrate performance. My thanks to nick and joe thus far.
 
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Dear Shooter:
I do not intend to go away! But I do intend to not post with you again.
On the forum if we can't be civil with one another it's too bad.
I gave my opinion - it ought to be respected - I've been a riflesmith and pistolsmith for 50 years - yes - I've made my share of mistakes but I know what real men do with their guns.
I've built serious sniper rifles for F.B.I. snipers, my late son and I built the first 1911 SWAT pistol for the F.B.I. and worked for Novaks 45 shop for years making 1911's for law enforcement and civilians alike.
If you want to put that abortion on your Raging Bull, that's fine - it's something I wouldn't dream of doing for the Denver Mint.
I hope it works and, no, I'm not going anywhere but on the forum - get used to it!
Harry B.:D
 
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Dear Sir:
I'll post once more -
To do this, you will have to unscrew the barrel. Then chuck up the rear bbl. threads in the chuck, run a live center in the ported muzzle and turn off the front bbl, area and thread it.
Yes, a good gunsmith could do it - making sure that a range rod cleared the brake. You might have to machine a threaded insert for the brake.
On the rear threads I would wrap them with tape because as you round the muzzle there will be some shock as you turn off the irregularities.
If I lived close enough to you I'd do it for nothing!;)
Harry B.
Now I'm done with this!
 
Brian,

Thanks for the recommendation. Mark and I are going to touch base in July when we are both done w/ vacations.

If I could ask, could you let us know what you had done and maybe post a pic?
 
adelphue,
Here is the site of a mastersmith whose style seems to fit your needs!
:o

http://www.tjscustomgunworks.com/

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You do reailize that a Raging bull has a muzzle brake already, don't you?

Given the profile of the barrel and the integral brake, I think a different revolver may be a better staring point. Or, get a whole new barrel machined from scratch.




-tINY

 
I have a idea. Due to the muzzel brake on the bull.
Turn down the barrel past the brake. turn threads behind the brake.

The 82 brake needs a sleeve that will fit the cylindrikal part of the barrel with enough room for silver solder to wick in.

Yes the muzzel will be damage from a live center. But you have a cylindrical part on the barrel, just clam it again and give it a new crown.

Mount the brake. Solder it on.
And then cut the internal brake open. Or cut openings for the brake befor you solder it on.

You will lose your front sight. Maybe a scope or a C-more sight would look cool

Just my two cents
 
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