Longarm or bigger handgun when traveling?
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Mossberg 500 12guage. I keep it broken down during the trip with a cable lock thru the feed. When I go into a room it's in a postal box...one that is about 3ft long and trianguler...can put the shotgun and web belt of ammo in it and no one suspects. In the room I put it together and near the bed w/ my handgun on the bed...under the covers on one side-NOT under the pillow!
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Hi Everyone-
JimFox, tell us about how the Canadian Border Patrol "handles" a disassembled shotgun at their border.
I've traveled to visit with relatives on the outskirts of Montreal and have made the entire trip unarmed, so this could be welcomed good news.
Glamdring, in the USA, when some of my friends (not me
!) travel, they just utilize the ole' "don't ask, don't tell" method of traveling with either a sidearm or shotgun/rifle.
No problems have ever been encountered. Maintain speed limit, current insurance, current registration, no Phish/Grateful Dead stickers, clean car, etc., etc., etc., are the keys to hassle-free traveling.
En route, when they reach the next hotel/motel, they just bring in the cased longarm along with their luggage and not a thing happens. My theory is that if the case is brought in with regular luggage, it tends to "disappear" amongst the other baggage.
There was an excellent thread on this topic going back about 3 or 4 months ago.
Enjoy what's left of the weekend...
~ Blue Jays ~
[This message has been edited by Blue Jays (edited July 16, 2000).]
JimFox, tell us about how the Canadian Border Patrol "handles" a disassembled shotgun at their border.
I've traveled to visit with relatives on the outskirts of Montreal and have made the entire trip unarmed, so this could be welcomed good news.
Glamdring, in the USA, when some of my friends (not me
!) travel, they just utilize the ole' "don't ask, don't tell" method of traveling with either a sidearm or shotgun/rifle. No problems have ever been encountered. Maintain speed limit, current insurance, current registration, no Phish/Grateful Dead stickers, clean car, etc., etc., etc., are the keys to hassle-free traveling.
En route, when they reach the next hotel/motel, they just bring in the cased longarm along with their luggage and not a thing happens. My theory is that if the case is brought in with regular luggage, it tends to "disappear" amongst the other baggage.
There was an excellent thread on this topic going back about 3 or 4 months ago.
Enjoy what's left of the weekend...
~ Blue Jays ~
[This message has been edited by Blue Jays (edited July 16, 2000).]
Blue Jays
YMMV in Eastern Canada. All of my travels into and through Canada have been in the west except one time in Ontario in 1962.
Anyway, I drive a pickup with a big tool box in the back, maybe two if I've got stuff I taking to or from friends.
In recent years they've gotten a little tighter at the boarder, now a days they not only ask for identification, they sometimes run a computer check on it.
Anyway when I pull in they start with the usual questions, where am I from, where am I going, how long will I be in Canada, do I have tobacco, etc. When they get to the firearms part I tell them I have a 12 gage pump shotgun. Once I was asked if it was loaded, and twice I've been asked for the location. I've never had them ask to look at it or to verify that it was where I said it was.
It probably helps that I'm a bit gray around the muzzle and often travel with my blond associate who has cute floppy ears and is also kind of gray around the muzzle. (BTW, I've always had her (or her predecessor’s) health certificate and have never been asked for it or about it. Of course the rabies tag hanging on her collar might have something to do with that. It's my impression that those folks don't miss much even with just a couple of quick glances.)
I always have the shotgun unloaded and soft-cased in the locked tool box. I normally carry about a dozen rounds of ammo and those are sometimes loose in the case or in a drawstring bag in the tool box.
In all of my dozens (scores?) of border crossings I've always been treated with professionalism and courteously. One time at a crossing in Western Washington I hit the station on a Sunday night when the rush hour had been going on for a long while. It was near shift change and the guy I got was a bit grumpy. After what had been probably a hell of a day from his perspective, the worst I can say was that he was a bit grumpy.
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Jim Fox
[This message has been edited by JimFox (edited July 16, 2000).]
YMMV in Eastern Canada. All of my travels into and through Canada have been in the west except one time in Ontario in 1962.
Anyway, I drive a pickup with a big tool box in the back, maybe two if I've got stuff I taking to or from friends.
In recent years they've gotten a little tighter at the boarder, now a days they not only ask for identification, they sometimes run a computer check on it.
Anyway when I pull in they start with the usual questions, where am I from, where am I going, how long will I be in Canada, do I have tobacco, etc. When they get to the firearms part I tell them I have a 12 gage pump shotgun. Once I was asked if it was loaded, and twice I've been asked for the location. I've never had them ask to look at it or to verify that it was where I said it was.
It probably helps that I'm a bit gray around the muzzle and often travel with my blond associate who has cute floppy ears and is also kind of gray around the muzzle. (BTW, I've always had her (or her predecessor’s) health certificate and have never been asked for it or about it. Of course the rabies tag hanging on her collar might have something to do with that. It's my impression that those folks don't miss much even with just a couple of quick glances.)
I always have the shotgun unloaded and soft-cased in the locked tool box. I normally carry about a dozen rounds of ammo and those are sometimes loose in the case or in a drawstring bag in the tool box.
In all of my dozens (scores?) of border crossings I've always been treated with professionalism and courteously. One time at a crossing in Western Washington I hit the station on a Sunday night when the rush hour had been going on for a long while. It was near shift change and the guy I got was a bit grumpy. After what had been probably a hell of a day from his perspective, the worst I can say was that he was a bit grumpy.
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Jim Fox
[This message has been edited by JimFox (edited July 16, 2000).]
Hi All-
JimFox, sounds like the "matter-of-fact" responses to the Canadian authorities do the trick! I drive a sedan right now, and I keep my shotgun in a Waller SoftSafe (lockable).
There are no "guarantees" in life, but maybe on my next trip up North, I'll bring an old BB gun with me. When I'm asked about firearms at the border, I'll tell them that I have a "rifle" in the trunk and see what they do. If they confiscate it, I've lost (maybe) $25.00. If they get angry that it's a only BB gun and not a real rifle, I can just play stupid..."Hey guys, sorry, I thought it was a rifle."
Does this seem like a good way to "take a temperature" for crossings closer to Montreal? Sure wouldn't want to lose a Vang Comp Remington 870 trying to figure out what's allowed and what isn't!
Regards everyone,
~ Blue Jays ~
JimFox, sounds like the "matter-of-fact" responses to the Canadian authorities do the trick! I drive a sedan right now, and I keep my shotgun in a Waller SoftSafe (lockable).
There are no "guarantees" in life, but maybe on my next trip up North, I'll bring an old BB gun with me. When I'm asked about firearms at the border, I'll tell them that I have a "rifle"
in the trunk and see what they do. If they confiscate it, I've lost (maybe) $25.00. If they get angry that it's a only BB gun and not a real rifle, I can just play stupid..."Hey guys, sorry, I thought it was a rifle."Does this seem like a good way to "take a temperature" for crossings closer to Montreal? Sure wouldn't want to lose a Vang Comp Remington 870 trying to figure out what's allowed and what isn't!
Regards everyone,
~ Blue Jays ~
for all Current Firearms Laws about Canada goto this site; http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/ this is the Goverments site and is Updated Regularly.
I Personally don't thin I have ever seen any Americans being hassled about thier Long Guns at the Border, when I was driving truck going to the states and crossing the border daily I allways had a Rem. 870 Behind the seat.
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I Personally don't thin I have ever seen any Americans being hassled about thier Long Guns at the Border, when I was driving truck going to the states and crossing the border daily I allways had a Rem. 870 Behind the seat.
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