Locking firearms for car glove compartment ?

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It's my understanding that a locked Glock - the ones with the new locking mechanism is basically impossible to unlock unless you cut the frame or something?

I'm not sure I'm right about that but i was thinking that maybe firearms with integral locking mechanisms are OK to throw in a glove compartment.

My thinking is, if I need a pistol immediately - it's my carry firearm I would go to and not the glove compartment. But if I needed a second firearm, the gun in the glove compartment would be there...

And hopefully if the firearm does get stolen out of the glove compartment, it will be very difficult or next to impossible for the theif to get it functional.
 
Instead of the glove compartment, I'd go with a small lock-box with a cable that can be looped around a seat frame/mount or in the trunk, around one of the trunk door arms.

Most glove compartments aren't that secure. Plus, the lockboxes work in rental cars, and are good (in conjunction with TSA locked hard suitcases) for airline baggage.
 
I don't believe in storing a gun in the car except when I have to go inside a courthouse or other gun free zone. If I did, I would store mine in the glove box due to state law. In Kentucky, a handgun is not considered concealed if stored in the glove box. If one of my family drives my car and gets stopped for some reason or gets into an accident, I wouldn't want them arrested for carrying concealed without a license. YMMV.
 
Most glove compartments aren't that secure.
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Wanna see how fast I can jimmy one open? It's not hard. On newer cars, it's actually easier. In some cases, you can get in from underneath, without even bothering with the lock.

I can imagine that a criminal is even more efficient and practiced.

It's shocking how often I hear of guns being stolen from glove compartments. Please don't do this, folks.

My solution is a lock box bolted to the floor just behind and underneath the passenger seat. It's not foolproof, but it makes removal difficult (and time-consuming) enough that it'll likely be left behind during a smash-and-grab.
 
Someone on another forum suggested a set of good police handcuffs through the trigger guard and secured somewhere on a fairly hard component of the interior. Somewhere out of sight, of course. This would be used when one was going into a courthouse, etc. Again, not foolproof, but what you are doing is changing a 30 second operation into a three or four minute job, which would deter many criminals. State law in Georgia allows a handgun anywhere in the car, concealed or open sight, without need of a permit, so a non-permit adult family member would be legal.
 
In Kentucky, a handgun is not considered concealed if stored in the glove box. If one of my family drives my car and gets stopped for some reason or gets into an accident, I wouldn't want them arrested for carrying concealed without a license. YMMV.
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KyJim, you just said it -- in Kentucky, a loaded handgun in a glove box is NOT a concealed weapon and thus anyone else who takes your car isn't at risk with the gun in there.

I'm with you -- I don't ever leave a loaded handgun in my car unless I have to go somewhere that won't let me carry it. But KY has perhaps the best laws in the country in this regard. Most anywhere else, someone borrowing your car is in a heap of trouble, but not in Kentucky.

Copied from Handgunlaw.us:
527.020 Carrying Concealed Deadly Weapon.
Note: (New Law becomes effective 6/16/2011. Glove Box is only place you can store firearm till that date.)
(8) A loaded or unloaded firearm or other deadly weapon shall not be deemed concealed on or about the person if it is located in any enclosed container, compartment, or storage space [regularly] installed as original equipment in a motor vehicle by its manufacturer, including but not limited to a glove compartment, center console, or seat pocket, regardless of whether said enclosed container, storage space, or compartment is locked, unlocked, or does not have a locking mechanism. No person or organization, public or private, shall prohibit a person from keeping a loaded or unloaded firearm or ammunition, or both, or other deadly weapon in a vehicle in accordance with the provisions of this subsection. Any attempt by a person or organization, public or private, to violate the provisions of this subsection may be the subject of an action for appropriate relief or for damages in a Circuit Court or District Court of competent jurisdiction. This subsection shall not apply to any person prohibited from possessing a firearm pursuant to KRS 527.040.
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Want more anti-gun laws?

Sorry, never store guns in motor vehicles. It's a sure way of supplying guns to the criminal element and if it's your gun that's used in the next school massacre, your life will change as you know it, even though you didn't pull the trigger. A personal friend and his buddy lost a gun each when their parked car was stolen at work. They had planned to go to the range together after work. A generous supply of ammo was also lost in the appropriate calibers.

Instances of uniformed police officers using a second gun to save the day are very rare. Instances of CCWs needing a second gun are even more rare.
 
always be prepared

at any given time, I have three guns in my truck, one on my side, one in the door in a snapped holster which I take in the house every night, and a two shot derringer that stays in the glove box.
I have to work in the shady side of town on occasion, and if SHTF I have the tools needed to survive and protect myself, and others in my truck.
 
I'm not sure I'm right about that but i was thinking that maybe firearms with integral locking mechanisms are OK to throw in a glove compartment.

My thinking is, if I need a pistol immediately - it's my carry firearm I would go to and not the glove compartment. But if I needed a second firearm, the gun in the glove compartment would be there...
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If you needed a second gun, you'd never get the thing "unlocked" and in fire mode. If you really think you need a second gun, carry a reload instead.
 
I had a guy try to crowbar my Jeep's aftermarket TUFFY glovebox last week. While he was unsuccessful it scared the crap out of me... I need to rethink my strategy. Unfortunately the nature of my work does not allow for carrying much, if at all. No more guns in the Jeep for now. The world is a pretty lousy place- FYI...

Don't think it can't happen to you. It almost happened to me... In public, in broad daylight, around a number of other (obviously oblivious) people.

This is one TOUGH glovebox!
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Wouldn't recommend storing a gun in a glove box when you are out of the car.

Get some bolt down safe put it in the trunk, still I wouldn't want to leave my gun in the car.
 
In the "Big City" not too far from me there has been a large increase in car break-ins. Think people, they ain't lookin' for CD's anymore! With our CCW laws it is leagal to cary a loaded firearm in your vehicle with or without a CCW permit. Many of the break-ins are in parking lots during events where it is not legal to CCW. They're looking for your guns!!! A lock box secured with a cable isn't completely thief proof, but they most often don't want to spend the time to get it so they move on. Never leave a firearm unattended in a vehicle without being secured as best as possible. A locked glove compartment is about as secure as a paper bag.
 
From the guy who taught my CCW class

His recommendation was a "good bicycle lock. You know, the old huge loop hasps with a decent lock on it. He stated that you could remove the magazine from you semi auto and run one side of the hasp through the magwell and then lock it. For revolvers, you could open the cylinder and run the hasp through the cylinder. Then he strongly recommended locking the "locked" firearm in the trunk.

Like some others I have also seen on the sight, he suggested that you do NOT place NRA stickers or other really pro gun stickers on your vehicle. These stickers (while perhaps beneficial to the organizations) will attract thieves to your vehicle.
 
I'll leave the debate to you. Much to consider on that one.

To answer your question, I think the 3 inch Charter Arms 44 is a way to go. As a revolver it has no mag springs or safties to worry about. They are inexpensive, and as a 44 special, can shoot through a windscreen or a car door. It can also do the job on four legged problems as well as criminals.
 
I've said it before and here it is again....

Get one of those locking boxes with the cable. I have one and it is the greatest thing. It can be switched from car to car and I really only use it if going into a school/some banks/government buildings. It is plenty cheap and I am not worried about the finish getting messed up from a lock or the seat rails because the box has foam inside. People argue that since the cable can be cut it is not secure enough. I don't have the statistics to prove it, but I would venture to say that thieves are not wandering around with bolt cutters when robbing cars. :)
 
t's my understanding that a locked Glock - the ones with the new locking mechanism
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Ok, I'm gonna have to ask what the heck that is.

BTW next time I get flamed for suggesting a 'truck gun' is a bad idea, I'm going to show vandyatc's picture.
 
I think criminals are stupid - just in general, but it does amaze me that some of them are smart and they'll apply their intellect to accumulating knowledge and creating a skill set on how to bypass the most sophisticated alarms and anti-theft devices. When if they'd just applied that same energy in school they'd have good jobs and wouldn't have to steal.

Although I guess it's more than that. Probably something to do with aspects of anti-social psycology or something.
 
a lock box with a thick chain possibly with a locked box inside of it. My car is paid off ive been thinking about bolting a small safe into the floorboard under the seat where the seat can be moved back to access it, but the chain thing would not requre holes drilled in the car
 
chris in va said:
BTW next time I get flamed for suggesting a 'truck gun' is a bad idea, I'm going to show vandyatc's picture.
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That's why I posted the picture...

I got a new lock box that would truly be impractical to break into. That said, I'm still generally going without my CCW...
 
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