Local Dealer sends all S&W's back!!!

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one of the local dealers here in KC.... is sending all of thier S&W's back.... they say they are returning all 100+ or so of them because they do not like the terms of the brokered deal.....(there are five or six large dealers here and we do not know yet if any of them is going to do the same thing.)this dealer is not one of the larger ones but they do a better than average business with the S&W's..... anyone else know of any dealers in thier area that are going do do the same thing?????
 
Good. I like S&W revolvers, but will not support them until they retract their horrible decision and apologize.
 
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pant, pant.....

For me, an apology will NOT be enough. The CEO of S&W has to RESIGN as well. Traitorous bast*rd!
 
Hey! Slick & Wesson don't forget to turn out the lights when you leave!

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Good friend and regional dealer purged his entire shop of S&Ws and related merchandise. And he included a blistering letter to the CEO that closed with "Shame on you".
Will S&W survive with a LE market only? Will they be able to produce high caps for cops and sell "assault" stuff to the gov't?
I don't even care!

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The Wife 2/2000
 
Thats a good deal if we stick together and their profits are affected they will get our message. I am through with them for good unless they are sold and divested of their present treasonous leadership.

...7th
 
Yes, see my post on this forum:
WAR ROOM for Smith & Wesson Boycott.

Add the following information:
Smith Wesson has their dealers listed at their web site. Just click on your state. Didn't see any e-mail addresses but you could try a search for a website and find a e-mail link for some of them. Otherwise just call them up and tell what you think about S&W and their deal with the chief fornicator.

Some of these dealers are going to get hurt by holding too many Smith & Wessons in their inventory. They need to return them to their distributor if possible.
 
Use the K-Mart/Citicorp analogy. I don't care if they live or die -- they will NOT get my money, period. Too many other competitors. Let that be the standard message to all these Bottom Line warriors.

I can't help but put in a snipe at the "global economy" promoters. As our companies are bought out by people who exist in Socialist (or worse) economies, the CEOs are used to be bullied by the govt. and would be more willing to knuckle under to the same crap pulled here.

Now that I've said that, I remember Bill Ruger's actions. Oh well.

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hamblen sales in ft collins co is having a "betrayed by smith and wesson" sale. all remaining s$w @ cost?
cliff the owner is a moderately laid back guy but the s&w deal really set him off!!
new bumper sticker
"BETRAYED BY SMITH & WESSON"
fortunately the 640 i have is pre-betrayal.
 
Went to Hamblen's on my recent trip to Colorado. Nice folks, GREAT shop!

If my favorite local dealer decides not to send his inventory back to S&W, then I'll probably buy one of the three revolvers that he has left in stock. He's not planning to get anymore after them, so S&W has made its last dime off of him anyway.
 
Bob: My thoughts are that a purchase from the dealer or distributors current existing inventory of Smith & Wessons will not benefit the S&W as long as the dealer or distributor does NOT re-stock S&W inventory.

What we need to find out is:

Distributor _____, Will you be ordering more S&Ws from the factory? Adding, I would like to encourage you NOT TO ORDER FROM THEM AGAIN?

I'm not so sure that the boycott at the "dealer level" is both fair and effective, but the key to the boycott is at the wholesale DISTRIBUTOR level. The wholesale DISTRIBUTORs need to be encouraged to join the boycott of S&W. RSR has lead the way in doing so. There are 3 more major distributors that need to line up with RSR.

See my post at: http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/forums/showthread.php?threadid=35127

To see my e-mail to distributors refer to my LAST post in the following thread: http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/forums/showthread.php?threadid=35135

PERSONNALLY, I would like to see S&W go Chapter 13 with Tompkins PLC having to sell their ASSets at 10 cents on the dollar. I would like to see the 4 major wholesale distributors buy S&W's assets and bring them back to their glory days. Dream? Who knows?
 
I just spoke to the owner of the local gun shop, who BTW is a close friend of mine.
He mentioned that S&W wanted him to have an area set up in the store just for the Slick Willie guns. There was to be NO access to that area by anyone under the age of 18. They also required him to carry $100,000.- Liability insurance for their products. There are also other stipulations to the "contract" S&W wants him to agree to, though I didn't get all the details. He was too busy with customers to go into detail. I will see if I can get a copy of the letter they sent him.

He is still trying to write a "Properly" worded letter to the company and is refusing to sell their products.


S&W basicly produce a decent revolver but their Semi-autos have a lot to be desired.

What I don't understand is that these cities that are going to "Boycott" other manufacturers that don't comply with these regulations that S&W signed by not using their products. That means that all the LEOs that carry Glocks, Beretta, Sig, etc. are going to give up these weapons and return to the use of a "revolver"??????? I think it's one of the stupidest moves by Law Enforcement Agencies yet. They are going to put an LEOs life at stake and give the criminal the upper hand. Just like the cops(Bobbies) in England with their night sticks. They can't even carry a loaded gun locked in the trunk of their patrol cruisers. If an armed criminal decides to commit a crime, they have to call for armed assistance.

DUMB, DA DUMB DUMB, DUMB !!!!!!


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Franz "What I don't understand is that these cities that are going to "Boycott" other manufacturers that don't comply with these regulations that S&W signed"......
since my cities PD by law must intertain bids... it is going to be very hard for them to just use manufacturers that recognize the WILLE RULE......the PD's in this state are controlled by the state government and not the local cities.....(only the sheriff's dept's are locally controlled).....we have one city that is engaged in the law suit against the manufacturers and they have not said that they will drop it against S&W as yet.... if they try to, they then fall under the "Frivilous law-suit" law of the state (they (the city)can be sued by the state to recoupe costs)....
It will be interesting to see how some of the cities will fare with this "S&W or those that comply" type policy
 
Well, RSR Wholesale pulled the plug with S&W, and they're approximately 25% of Slick $ Wesson's sales. Other major distributors are bailing out as well. I WOULD! I think most dealers will drop the line also, given the ridiculous constraints placed upon them by the "agreement". All I know is that I've bought my last NEW Smith & Wesson unless this situation reverses....and, oh, yeah; that's gonna happen. - Dakotan
 
Well, RSR Wholesale pulled the plug with S&W, and they're approximately 25% of Slick $ Wesson's sales. Other major distributors are bailing out as well. I WOULD! I think most dealers will drop the line also, given the ridiculous constraints placed upon them by the "agreement". All I know is that I've bought my last NEW Smith & Wesson unless this situation reverses....and, oh, yeah; that's gonna happen. - Dakotan
 
Uhhh...it was so important I had to say it twice?...yeah, that's it......oops, good thing I don't work at a nuclear facility ;)
 
This boycott is spreading like wildfire. Here's an article from the Idah Falls Post Register:
http://www.idahonews.com/03242000/a_sectio/105021.htm
Friday, March 24, 2000 - © Post Register

Some local gun dealers say they won't sell Smith & Wesson because of lock agreement
By Paul Menser

Smith & Wesson's decision to put tighter controls on sales of its handguns is going to cost the company business in eastern Idaho, local gun dealers say.

The Springfield, Mass., company was the only gun maker to sign a settlement with several cities and states suing the firearms industry. As part of the agreement, brokered by the Clinton administration, 28 city and county law enforcement agencies said they would give preference to gun makers that follow Smith & Wesson's lead.

The settlement has drawn strong criticism from the 3.5 million-member National Rifle Association. The other gun manufacturers that were asked to participate have so far refused.

"I don't agree with what (Smith & Wesson) has done, by any means," said Paul Payne, vice president of Ross' Coins, an Idaho Falls gun dealer. "It will definitely have an impact on business."

But he said he was not sure what to do until he sees how the settlement plays out. Smith & Wesson handguns are some of his strongest sellers. "My rep doesn't even have the answers," Payne said.

At Ski's House of Guns on West Broadway, the response has been less equivocal. Ski's will stop selling Smith & Wesson guns, said Charlie Sunderlin, a gunsmith at the store.
Sunderlin said he hadn't read the full text of the 15-page agreement until Wednesday. Before then, he thought it only concerned such issues as trigger locks and "smart gun" technology.

"It's a lot more than what they said on TV," he said.

For instance, to sell Smith & Wesson firearms, Ski's would have to take out a $2 million insurance policy to cover its liability in case a customer commits a crime with a gun bought at the store.

"Don't you hold people responsible for their own actions at some point?" asked Lorraine Ski, who works at the store.

Also, at the end of each business day, employees would have to gather up all the guns and put them in a vault.

"I think the net effect will be the end of Smith & Wesson as a commercial company," Sunderlin said. The company has committed "corporate suicide," he said.

Max Bosworth, owner of Max's Gun Shop in downtown Idaho Falls, said he would stop selling Smith & Wesson guns. He can't meet the settlement's restrictions.

"It's not for me to say (Smith & Wesson) did the right thing or the wrong thing," he said. "Judging from the distributors and the general attitude of the people I've encountered, that's what's happening everywhere. They might as well have gone ahead with the lawsuit. It's going to cost them about as much money."

Vic Talmo of Teton Arms in Jackson, Wyo., said he sells some guns, but the bulk of his business is in customizing pistols and rifles. He views the settlement as another move by the anti-gun lobby. "The lawyers are just pushing this for all it's worth. The end result is, they want our guns. We know what they're after. ...

"I don't know what else we can do. They're so intent on blaming the gun. I've got hundreds of guns in my house, and none of them have jumped off the shelf and killed anyone."

Business reporter Paul Menser can be reached at 542-6752, or via e-mail at pmenser@idahonews.com.




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Big gun show today in Hampton, VA. Heard nothing but negative comments about the S&W deal, and saw people buying up the S&W inventories of the local guys so they didn't have to eat the shipping to send them back.

I think it's going to be a while before S&W gets up off the mat over this one.

Hope the rest of the manufacturers out there are paying attention. And let's not forget that S&W is owned by a parent company in Great Britain. Is there a country on the planet with worse gun laws? I know some that are just as bad, but not worse.

Best case scenario: thousands of pro-gunners get together and raise the capital needed to buy S&W from its parent company, which is anxious to sell it off. After all, their workers DO turn out the best out-of-the-box revolvers you can buy without going to a custom shop. It would really be a shame to see them stop doing so, in my opinion. If only I had $150-160 million lying around....
 
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