Little PMC .45 ACP ammo problem........

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bullseyekp

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I was at an IDPA match this past saturday and a LEO from nearby town was shooting his stainless Kimber classic. On the third stage, his gun failed to fire and he had a little trouble extracting the round from the tube but eventually finished the stage. After he was finished shooting, he picked the loaded round up off the ground and soon found the problem.

There was NO FLASH HOLE in the cartridge!!! :eek: The primer went off and caused the primer pocket to exand enough to drop the primer but needless to say, the round didn't go off.

Anyone ever had this experience? I haven't but that's precisely why I shoot only my very own reloads.

BTW, the LEO is going to send PMC a few pics and a little note on department letterhead to inform them of what could have been a real liability issue.
 
You've just witnessed a problem not unique to
any brand or manufacturer.
From time to time a during the forming process, a case will miss the step which forms the flash hole. It's not common by any means, but it does happen.
 
No primer flash hole, no primer, bullet seated backwards, and no powder were all problems I ran across with factory .45ACP ammo. I don't know how the "no primer" or "reversed bullet" got past any inspector however.

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Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
"If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"
 
I have found PMC to have off centered flash holes in 45 acp and 9 mm. I have also heard many shooters complain about PMC for poor accuracy and failures, isn't that stuff made in Korea?
 
hmm...and PMC is supposed to stand for "Precision Made Cartridge". I am gonna just have to stick with good old Federal.
 
Try Pusan Metal Corporation first then it became Precision Made Cartridge when American shooters did not warm up to Korean ammo.

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Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
"If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"
 
Ya learn something new every day! Is it still Korean made?
 
Last year I shot several boxes of PMC 45 ACP ammo and recoil felt rather mild for 230gr FMJ ammo. I put last 5 rounds over my chrono and found that the average velocity was only 770fps (740-795fps) from my 5" Kimber. When I deprimed these cases I found that every brass had the flash hole way off center. For past few years PMC has been making most of their ammo in Mexico. I believe their "premium" rifle cartrides are still made in Navada.
 
The ammo was first imported from Korea (Pusan Metal Corp) but then the company, as i understand it, built plants here in the US, (Precision Made Cartridges).

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Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
"If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"
 
I don't care where it's made, it's crap. It might not have started out that way, but it sure is that way now. I haven't had, nor heard of, many good experiences with PMC in quite a long time, especially since you gamble on Korean, Mexican, and American made. BIG difference in quality from lot to lot, too, no matter where it's made.

Tom


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A "Miss" is the ultimate overpenetration!
You can never be too rich, too skinny, or too well armed!
Wake up and realize that you have the moral imperative of action..!!!
 
Federal Cartridge (and me) make pretty darn sure your round goes bang.

(you get what you pay for.....)

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"All my ammo is factory ammo"
 
Yes, I shoot a great deal of the PMC 9x19. I've had a variety of small issues (one period when there were alot of FTGBs), but the chronic issue is that it frequently won't lock the slide. Never fails to cycle and feed, but often won't lock. Chrono'd it, and it averages at least 75 fps slow -- that's why. S'pose it's also why it's cheaper -- less powder? <g> At $6 or $6.50/box for Mr. Nine, it's worth shooting, but if I were paying more I'd find something else to buy.
 
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