List of gun lobby members given to feds

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Important Vote Affecting Gun Rights Tomorrow
-- House to decide if government can glean gun owners' names from certain
lists

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408

(Monday, June 26, 2000) -- The Hostettler amendment to gut the Smith & Wesson agreement is scheduled to be
voted on tonight. Having said that, there is a threat looming on the horizon -- a threat that may materialize in the
House as early as tomorrow.

The House is expected to begin debating H.R 4717, the Archer-Houghton "Full and Fair Political Activity Disclosure
Act of 2000" -- a bill that turns out to be neither full nor fair.

H.R. 4717 would force affected organizations (like GOA) to release many, if not all, of the names and addresses of
their members to the IRS -- a requirement which is blatantly unconstitutional. Many years ago, the state of Alabama
had tried to get the names of NAACP members, but its attempts were beaten back by the Supreme Court in NAACP
v. Alabama (1958).

Despite this obvious precedent, this bill is now targeting so-called 501(c)(4) lobbying organizations -- groups like
GOA and NRA-ILA -- which cannot receive tax-deductible contributions from the public. In contrast, there are many
liberal foundations that are set up as 501(c)(3) organizations -- groups like the Million Mom March Foundation which
are limited in the amount of direct lobbying that they can do. Even so, these foundations can still spend up to $1
million per year in direct lobbying and conduct voter education campaigns while still receiving tax-deductible
contributions.

All this to say: H.R. 4717 applies to 501(c)(4) organizations but not to 501(c)(3) organizations. Thus, this bill regulates
GOA and NRA, but not anti-gun organizations such as the Violence Policy Center, the Million Mom March
Foundation or HCI's Center to Prevent Handgun Violence.

Unfair? You bet it is. But the bigger issue is the threat this bill poses to the Constitution. This bill, sponsored by
retiring Representative Bill Archer (R-TX), will allow Republicans to claim they have "done something" about
campaign finance reform. But in doing so, they're blowing holes in the Constitution. The Supreme Court correctly
noted in the NAACP decision that forcing groups to disclose their members' names to the government would
"constitute a[n] effective restraint on freedom of association."

It goes without saying that an activist who sends a check to GOA to help protect his Second Amendment rights
doesn't want his name being registered with the IRS as a gun owner. And for that reason, GOA will fight this bill
"tooth and nail." And if this bill were to become law, GOA would not comply. We would fight it in court, and exhaust
every possible resource, because we are not going to turn over our members' names to the IRS.

This underscores why it is SO VERY IMPORTANT that we defeat this bill in the Congress! GOA would rather spend
its members' dollars defending 2nd Amendment freedoms, as opposed to spending hundreds of thousands of dollars
fighting 1st Amendment battles in court.

ACTION: Please ask your Congressman to OPPOSE H.R. 4717, the Archer-Houghton Political Activity Disclosure
Act. Tell them the government has no business keeping tabs on who you're associating with. Moreover, this kind of
legislation is dangerous as far as gun ownership is concerned. The registration of gun owners could very well be the
first step towards confiscation in the future.

Tell your Congressman to vote NO on H.R. 4717. Please call him toll-free at 1-888-449-3511. >>>

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It sounds like there was already a precedent set in NAACP v. Alabama. The Supreme Court oughta blow this one right out of the water.
 
I'm all for personal privacy and against gov't list-making, but will someone please explain the following quote to me:
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It goes without saying that an activist who sends a check to GOA to help protect his Second Amendment rights
doesn't want his name being registered with the IRS as a gun owner.
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mmmm, why not, exactly ? Every time you write your reps and identify yourself as pro-2nd and/or a gunowner, aren't you doing the very same thing ? By comparison, the lefties are very loud & proud in their anti-constitutional opinions, and should we be cowering ?

Are we shaming ourselves into the closet ? What gives ?
 
They really want us.

The FBI has been tracking the NRA's outgoing and incoming mail already. Now this.

Don't forget this idea was introduced by Republicans. They are all Oligarchs.
 
RH asks why we would want to remain unlisted. Because we do not want numbers tatooed on us by the government. I was concerned/afraid that being an NRA member would eventually put me on the IRS/FBI/ATF hit list. This gave me serious pause about renewing this year. But since they'd likely get past records to, the damage is done. So I may as well join GOA too. But at what point does one cross some future/retroactive arbitrary threshold to being defined as a "potential" subversive threat or terrorist? Are we to be damned because of what groups we associate with or have associated with? Are we to be marked because of the activities of our friends or relatives. This portends a replay of McCarthyism?
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmccarthyism.htm
 
I think it has to do with choices. I choose to write my congressman... while I dont choose to have my name and address given to the IRS/FBI/ATF for harassment. This is a simple tactical move from the anti's. They are well aware of the fact the many if not most of us hate to volunteer for any governement list so they make it impossible to not get put on a list. Given that the NRA/GOA... membership has been growing over the past few years, the tactic makes good sense. Discourage new member from joining cause they will get black listed, and make it look like you are refining campaign finance crap.

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I agree it is a tactic to discourage membership.
As far as registration and you being gun owner.Thats way been done.
Anytime the feds want they can access the
form 4473 (same form of records used in nazi germany) and who of you is so kind as to think the feds arent keeping records through the nics system.
All they have to do when the dealer calls in is hit records,
you know to make sure the sale is legal and all.
You think our founding forefathers werent on a list by the redcoats.
And if you do join GOA youll found out that theirs the difference between them and the NRA is like night and day.One smaaaaaaal way to see that is the Hostettler amendment.
GOA has lobbied to pass this as Neal Knox brings out in a post on this forum the NRA SAT THIS ONE OUT.But guess who siad the amendment barely being defeated was a blow to the NRA?? the liberal media.
Guess what thats going to do, gunowners are going to hear that and join the NRA thinking
that they were fighting for that pro-gun bill to pass when they didnt touch it.
INteresting gunowners are joining the gun lobby that the liberal media directs them to.
Wonder why theyd pick the NRA?
Go to GOA's website look at the number of pro-gun bills their lobbying for compared to the number of ones the NRA is working on.
Where do a lot of gunowners hear about the NRA and the supposed hardcore stnance from
the liberal media
just like all those measures the MMM called for the media told you the NRA was blocking those,thats totally untrue the NRA was willing to compromise on everyone of these except the one in the senate bill the threee day wait on gunshows.
www.gunowners.org www.ccrkba.org www.jbs.org

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