lever-gun heirarchy

gaseousclay

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Is there some sort of heirarchy for lever-guns in terms of quality? I know this is a subjective topic but I always read about certain brands that are considered good (Winchester, Browning, Marlin) but then I come across others that I don't know much about.

Here's a list of companies that make lever-guns that i'm aware of. Please feel free to rate these companies on a 1-10 scale (1 being the best) or add to this list:

Winchester
Marlin
Browning
Henry
Rossi
Mossberg
Savage
Ruger
Uberti
Sako
 
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I have Marlin leverguns in 45-70 and 44 mag. Both shoot well and are reliable. The biggest improvement I made was the Wild West Happy Trigger kit (I ordered from Brownells). Huge difference. Also WW bearproof extractor on the 1895.

I have Browning leverguns in 45-70 (1885 & 1886) that shoot great and look fantastic.

My only Winchesters are older rifles, so not really relevant.
 
I or my extended family owns Winchesters, Marlins and Henrys. All three great rifles, but I'd hesitate to rank them.

The Winchester 94 is an iconic levergun with over 8 million made. Both of mine are light, trim rifles with Williams peep sights, used as woods-cruising guns. I believe that the Win94 is the trimmest of the three I listed, but for folks who like scopes it might not be the best choice. One is sighted for cast bullets at 1850 fps, the other for jacketed bullets at 2200. They're both great rifles for introducing kids to recoil.

The Marlin 336 series is a little heavier than the Win 94, but mounting a scope is much easier. It's not quite as trim and lots of folks take off the forearm and sand it down to a more pleasing contour. However, the scope makes sighting easier and the rifle is very accurate, in the neighborhood of 1.5 inches at 100 yards. Very nice rifle. Mine is a 1974 version, and I'm hearing some complaints about quality control since they moved the plant to Ilion, so caveat emptor.

The Marlin 1894 is perhaps my favorite of the three. It is very light and makes the .357 magnum into a whole 'nuther cartridge. The forearm is a little bulky and I've been tempted to use a rasp on it, but the wood on mine is so pretty that I've decided to leave it alone. Light, handy, serious power, a good companion to the revolver on my waist. What's not to love?

The Henry is the most fun. Ours is a .22LR and simply a ball to shoot. We've left it as it came from the box and it's great for teaching the grandkids how to use a traditional open sight. It's so much fun that I'm looking for a good deal on one in .22 magnum. Very accurate rifle with the right ammo, it would be tempting to take this one into the squirrel woods this fall while I'm scouting for deer.

No experience with the others. I'm not going to rate any of them. But, if you've not experienced levergunning, you're missing something.

Update: Years ago I bought a Mossberg off the used gun rack for one of my sons to deer hunt. It quickly became a family favorite and was used by all three boys for over 15 years and I couldn't begin to tell you how many cases of ammo went through that rifle. We lived in the country with lots of forest and that rifle was a serious companion. Two years ago it started exhibiting a tendency to "hang-up" and I took it to a gunsmith. He looked it over and told me that we had worn it out. Yep, worn it out. I asked about the quality of the brand and he told me that the quality was good, but that every rifle has a service life and we had exceeded that one.

My second son has it now. I offered to dispose of it, but he keeps it as a memento of his youth. How many folks can say that they've worn out a levergun?
 
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From reading bunches of posts through the years, it seems to me that any hierarchy has more to do with factory quality control than any other aspect. For some brands it seems to be occasionally somewhat less than we as a group think it should be. That is, some of what might be considered low-ranking have had excellent reports for smooth, reliable use. Occasionally, complaints.
 
I'd break your categories down a little further, by "modern" and "traditional" lever rifles. The Savage 99, Browning BLR and Winchester 88 would fit into the modern category as they were made to operate using spitzer style bullets and didn't use tube magazines. The traditional styles are what we are more used to seeing and most are patterned after the Winchester 94. Then you have the Winchester 95 which kind of bridges the two styles.

The only real two players in the lever rifle game anymore are Marlin and Browning IMO. These two makers are still bringing something to the table with lever actions. Everyone else is just making reproductions of the tried and true favorites.

My experience has been limited to the Marlin 336 in .35 Rem, Winchester 94 in .30-30, and Savage 99 in .358 Win. I found all to be smooth in operation and accurate for hunting. My most accurate is the Savage 99 but that is to be expected as it is my only scoped Lever.

My Marlin 336 I set up for hog hunting, using a 3 moa red dot. It was about the most perfect rifle for hunting hogs in low light. I don't get to hunt hogs often so that rifle was sold.

My M94 I plink with now using bullets that I cast. It is just a fun rifle to shoot and have around. One day I might hunt deer with it but where I usually hunt I don't get very many opportunities with an open sighted rifle under 100 yards.
 
You missed the ultimate lever action. The Sako in 308. Strong action smooth as glass. Had the privilidge of shooting on. Also the only one I have ever handled.

Won't give up my Marlin 336 with its gold trigger.
 
I totally spaced out the Sako. I've only seen pictures of them, but I've heard good things about them. Maybe someday I'll get to hold one.
 
I'd break your categories down a little further, by "modern" and "traditional" lever rifles. The Savage 99, Browning BLR and Winchester 88 would fit into the modern category as they were made to operate using spitzer style bullets and didn't use tube magazines.

I understand and appreciate the distinction you are making but it's a bit of a reach, I think, to describe a rifle developed in the nineteenth century (the Savage Model 99) as "modern". A bit ahead of its time, perhaps. :)
 
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my favorites are Winchester, Puma,Henry and Marlin. in that order. i have not shot the others. i tend to like the more traditional look and feel.
 
another issue...

Data ( vintage ) of manufacture...

... for example, I just bought a new to me "old" Rossi in 357 magnum... blued with extra grade wood, full engraving, & a saddle ring on a 20" barrel... ( mine is old enough, that it's pre safety ) my buddy just bought a new / new manufacture Rossi 20" barrel 357 magnum... since mine was a fancier grade gun, it was not shot much at all ( if any ) & only had handling marks in the stock... comparing these two guns is like night & day... the old one being much much better than the new one...

... I'd guess looking at new Marlins or Winchesters, or whatever, you'll find similar results... the new guns just aren't comparable to the vintage guns... so then the "heirarchy" on new guns is going to depend on how far the quality has slid down from the originals that these coupany's made their names off of...

models can make a difference as well... using Henery for example, their 22's are light handling & fun to shoot, compared to the competition, their big boys, are clunky & slow compared to similar models...

just my opinion... worth what you paid...;)
 
You missed the ultimate lever action. The Sako in 308. Strong action smooth as glass. Had the privilidge of shooting on. Also the only one I have ever handled.

I also have been able to handle and inspect (but have never had the privilege of actually shooting one) several fine Sako lever-action (the "Finnwolf") rifles over the years and I'd still like to get one. They were also chambered in .243 Winchester. Though the Finnwolves have a passing resemblance to the Winchester Model 88 lever-action rifle due to their one-piece stocks and detachable magazines, I've always thought that the Sakos came with far superior triggers and that their actions were a bit smoother to operate.

"Ultimate" is a big word, but I agree in this context (ranking lever-action rifles in terms of a "heirarchy"), the Finnwolf is a serious contender indeed-and may well hold the title of "The Best Lever-action Rifle Ever Made". But then the Winchester Model 71 comes to mind...:o :D
 
Most of those are good. Each has their good and bad points. For a traditional style levergun the Marlins are probably the safest bet. Many of the Winchesters are as good or better, but Winchester quality has been up and down over the last 100+ years so it depends on which era the gun was made. Marlins have been more consistent, although I've heard newer guns have been questionable.

Browning, Savage,Sako and even the Winchester 88 and 1895 are more modern designs. From a functional point they work just fine and if they interest you would be good choices. Not my cup of tea, if I wanted something other than a traditional levergun I'll use a bolt gun.

I like the Henry 22 leverguns, but find their centerfires to be awful, as well as Mossberg's offerings. The appeal of leverguns is their fairly light weight and trim quick pointing characteristics. Henry and Mossberg have found a way to make an ugly, heavy, clunky, awkward club. They may well shoot fine, but I'll pass.

I'd pass on Ruger as well for many of the above reasons as well as reliability issues.

Uberti makes a lot of interesting reproductions that look good and appear to be well made. They are the only brand I don't have any real first had experience with.
 
Sako Finnwolf .308 is the best lever action centerfire rifle. Smooth action, 1" groups at 100 yards with factory ammo, little felt recoil, not to heavy to carry all day, & I own one.
Marlin 39A is the best rimfire lever action rifle. Smooth action, exceptional accuracy, reliable. My brother owns one.
 
I don't think you can call Browning 1885's "Lever Action". In the true sense of the term, lever action means it is a repeater. The 1885 is a single shot. BTW, I have an 1885 in .22-250 that I love...
 
I've never seen a lever action rifle post a 1/2 inch group at 100 yards with the exception of a 250-3000 Savage model 99... Not saying that is typical but the Savage 99 sure rates high on my list...
 
Lots of good lever guns - I like my Winchester 94 rifles in 30-30 -

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Just by accident they are commemoratives -

My BL22 is hard to beat -

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But, I agree with Teddy Roosevelt - the Winchester 95 in 30-06 is #1 -

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No experience to speak of with other brands.
 
I agree that "lever action" is overwhelmingly used to refer to repeaters. And I acknowledge that I usually call my 1885 a "falling block". However, the action IS operated by lever. Apparently enough folks have applied the term "lever action" to such rifles that the Wikipedia blurb on lever actions makes note of the secondary application of the term to falling blocks like my 1885.

Whatever you call it, one of my match-shooting buddies got a three-round, hundred yard cloverleaf out of my 1885.
 
Thanks for the top-notch "gun ****" for the day. I have four Marlins but appreciate all nice looking lever guns.

As for the OP, just another forum fuel post. Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. No serious offense intended, just my belly button. ;)
 
Browning, Savage,Sako and even the Winchester 88 and 1895 are more modern designs.

As referenced in my earlier post regarding the supposed "modernity" of the nineteenth century Savage 99 design, the over century old Winchester 1895 design hardly fits the definition of "modern". Heck, even the Winchester Model 88 is well over fifty years old and the Sako Finnwolf (introduced in 1964) and the Browning BLR (introduced in 1981) designs are hardly "spring chickens". I suppose that these rifles could be called "non-traditional" but, then again, what could be more traditional than the century old Savage Model 99 and the Winchester Model 1895?

I see it as a quandry in terms of definitions when trying to differentiate between lever-actions with hammers and tubular magazines (the Winchester Model 94 and the Marlin Model 336 being examples) ; lever-actions with hammers and non-tubular magazines (the Browning BLR and the Winchester Model 1895 being examples) and hammerless designs with non-tubular magazines (the Winchester Model 88, the Savage Model 99 and the Sako Finnwolf being examples). The age of the respective designs seems to have little to do with the supposed "modernity" of the various lever-action concepts that have come to fruition.
 
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