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Leupold - M3 vs. Tactical series
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CITADELGRAD87
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Hi Dave. I recently looked into this area for a long range setup of my own.
The tacticals are a 1" tube INSIDE a 30mm tube, and do not have true 30mm internals, so you don't get the benefit of the elevation possible in a true 30mm tube.
The Mark 4 series is a true 30mm scope, with 30mm internals.
The tacticals are a 1" tube INSIDE a 30mm tube, and do not have true 30mm internals, so you don't get the benefit of the elevation possible in a true 30mm tube.
The Mark 4 series is a true 30mm scope, with 30mm internals.
700PSS Shooter
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I for one would love to see verifiable documentation on the post by CITADELGRAD87.
The tacticals have the same parallax adjustment as the non-tactical versions with the same specs. Tacticals add target knobs and blacken the gold ring on the objective bell. The ones I looked at adjusted to infinity. Infinity is infinity. The short-range adjustment is more important for parallax correction anyhow. The Vari-X III M3's have the bullet drop compensating elevation adjustment and knobs without caps. The Mark4 M3's have caps. The Mark4's have a much thicker main tube which would be much stronger. With the single power, they are also simpler.
The 3.5-10X40LR M1 and M3 have 65 inches of adjustment at 100 yards. The Mark4 M1 and M3 have 90 inches and 73" respectively. The Mark4 16X has 140 inches of adjustment. I do not know id the tubes are centered in theri adjustment range or not. I cannot see any situation requiring 32.5 inches of declination.
FYI, the Tasco SS10x42 has 120 inches of adjustment.
This is not as critical as it may seem as there are a number of high end forward canted bases out there (Badger, Lightforce, D.D.Ross, etc.) ranging from 15-20 minutes of angle to compensate.
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The tacticals have the same parallax adjustment as the non-tactical versions with the same specs. Tacticals add target knobs and blacken the gold ring on the objective bell. The ones I looked at adjusted to infinity. Infinity is infinity. The short-range adjustment is more important for parallax correction anyhow. The Vari-X III M3's have the bullet drop compensating elevation adjustment and knobs without caps. The Mark4 M3's have caps. The Mark4's have a much thicker main tube which would be much stronger. With the single power, they are also simpler.
The 3.5-10X40LR M1 and M3 have 65 inches of adjustment at 100 yards. The Mark4 M1 and M3 have 90 inches and 73" respectively. The Mark4 16X has 140 inches of adjustment. I do not know id the tubes are centered in theri adjustment range or not. I cannot see any situation requiring 32.5 inches of declination.
FYI, the Tasco SS10x42 has 120 inches of adjustment.
This is not as critical as it may seem as there are a number of high end forward canted bases out there (Badger, Lightforce, D.D.Ross, etc.) ranging from 15-20 minutes of angle to compensate.
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CITADELGRAD87
New member
700PSS Shooter-
I was speaking from memory, but your post forced me back into the real archives....
My query was into the Variable "LR" series, which I was told by SWFA and others is a 1" inside a 30mm.
Right now my brain feels like a peanut inside a coconut.
Sorry about any confusion, and I certainly didn't mean to disparage the mighty Leup, as it is my long range scope of choice.
As a final answer, call SWFA and ask them, they were very helpful to me.
I was speaking from memory, but your post forced me back into the real archives....
My query was into the Variable "LR" series, which I was told by SWFA and others is a 1" inside a 30mm.
Right now my brain feels like a peanut inside a coconut.
Sorry about any confusion, and I certainly didn't mean to disparage the mighty Leup, as it is my long range scope of choice.
As a final answer, call SWFA and ask them, they were very helpful to me.