Let's get assault weapons off our streets

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Let's get assault weapons off our streets

By SHERRY LONG
Staff Writer
A man drives downtown in Tyler and opens fire on the county courthouse steps, killing his ex-wife, an innocent bystander and wounding numerous others.

A sheriff's deputy remains in critical condition from his wounds.
SHERRY LONG
The Daily News


Unfortunately, this story is very familiar.

It happened last Thursday afternoon at the Smith County Courthouse when the shooter was due in court concerning a child custody case.

The man used an AK-47 semi-automatic assault firearm to kill his victims.

A quick check on the Internet revealed that on the same day a Los Angeles city employee shot two co-workers using the same type of gun that was used in the Tyler killings - a semi-automatic assault weapon.

Who needs a semi-automatic weapon?

I fully understand the United States Constitution allows people the right to protect themselves and their homes by owning guns.

But semi-automatic weapons?

What in the world would you kill with a semi-automatic, unless you are just purposely going hunting for other human beings?

Are you going to go out and shoot a deer with a semi-automatic?

I admit that I don't know a lot about hunting, but seems like if you use a semi-automatic there won't be much left of the very animals you're trying to take home for dinner.

Plus, animals will hear a multitude of gunfire, not just one shot.

Personally, I'm scared of guns. I will not go near them, whether they're pistols or rifles. I don't care. I have buried too many friends and family members who died from shooting incidents.

A better question to ask is, why are semi-automatic guns even manufactured?

Most large corporations are driven by the profit motive - cold, hard, green cash. It's a simple true hard fact of life.

How money-hungry and greedy does a corporation have to be to put killing machines on the streets?

In 1994, Congress banned automatic and semiautomatic weapons, but it seems there are more reports than ever about shootings involving assault weapons.

"Immediately after the 1994 law was enacted, the gun industry evaded it by making slight, cosmetic design changes to banned weapons-including those banned by name in the law-and continued to manufacture and sell these "post-ban" or "copycat" guns," as reported in a study by the Violence Policy Center.

In May 2003, a congressman from New York authored a bill to make it harder for gun manufacturers to make and sell the post-ban weapons.

I hope it passes. These types of weapons need to be taken off the streets once and forever.

Federal law states that automatic weapons can only be used by the military.

I can understand the military needing automatic weapons. They conduct business in war zones, where the enemy is likely to be equipped with equally powerful and destructive automatic weapons.

But on the streets of our cities right here at home?

Assault weapons have no place in America or on our streets.

It's not exactly what our founding fathers had in mind when they said we have the right to bear arms and protect ourselves.

Staff writer Sherry Long can be reached via email at schools@hendersondailynews.com.


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*Head explodes from anti-gun BS* :barf:

I could, if I wanted (I don't, don't call the police) to, go on a killing rampage with my M91/30 rifle. I could go on a killing rampage with an Axe, my car (Farmers market anyone. :eek: ), etc.

Police have semi-automatic assault weapons *head explodes again* does that mean they are all going to go start killing masses of people? I think not.

I say we set up a fund to wrap this persons entire house in bubble wrap so that he won't get hurt by the big bad world. :p Better yet, drop them off in the middle of Washington DC at 1am and see how well the make it out. (Guns are illegal there so it should be a nice urban utopia with people crapping :)sunshine:), right?)

I need to stop, my head is hurting too much. :mad:
 
Observations:

She's afraid of firearms -- all types.
She admits to not knowing much about hunting.
Doesn't know why semiautos are made
Says only military can have automatic weapons
Says assault weapons have no place on American streets.
Claims these weapons are not what our founding fathers intended.

Commentary:
1. Why is someone who is afraid of firearms permitted to write such illogical tripe for a newspaper? Don't they have standards? (yes, low ones apparently).

2. If she doesn't know much about hunting then she can't make any claims that semi-auto firearms are inappropriate. Yet she claims they are inappropriate without any facts or expertise to make the claim.

3. Semi-Auto firearms have been in use since before 1900. Uses include, sport hunting, trap shooting, skeet shooting, recreational shooting, defensive shooting, long range matches, short range matches, IPSC, IDPA and other types of matches. Yet she doesn't see any validity to owning one.

4. The U.S. military has machine guns; fully automatic firearms. So do thousands of ordinary U.S. citizens who have paid the special transfer tax, undergone a background check and registered their firearm. I can't recall a single case of a lawfully registered machine gun being used in a crime.

5. If you want to get the "assault weapons" off American streets, start with the group that puts more of them on our streets than anyone -- the POLICE. The move to arm police with these rifles should stop before criminals start stealing them from police cars.

6. The founding fathers DID intend us to have semi-automatic firearms. As well as machine guns and "...every other terrible implement of the soldier" according to Tenche Cox.

I certainly hope Mz. Long didn't wet herself while writing that "let's ban anything I'm afraid of" article.
 
Assault weapons

OK Mz Long, who doesn't know alot about hunting, or firearms. And who want's to blame firearm manufacturers for semi-auto', and auto's. Let's also blame the ball point pen manufacturers for all of our misspelled words!! And you show me where it says that federal law states that only the military may use semiautomatic weapons!! Oh and by the way, no ethical hunter is going to unload a clip or a magazine on a deer, but they may want to have a quick reload for a humane kill on the animal just in case of unforseen circumstances such as a limb, the animal stepped out just as you squeeze off a shot, any number of things........Anyway......

My sympathy goes out to all of the families of not just firearm related crimes, but all crimes. But to get right down to the truth. It doesn't really matter what kind of weapon was used to commit a crime. Whether the assailant used an automatic, semi-auto, single shot, or a baseball bat. The only way we're going to stop crime..is to come up with very harsh penalties for the people commiting these acts of violence. Make and example of the people who commit the hanus crimes. If all firearms of any sort were banned (god forbid that would ever happen), these criminals would be using knives, axes, etc. So now let's ban all sharp objects. Then these criminals would be using bats, clubs, sticks, whatever.....The problem is not the type of weapon...The problem is that these people who commit these acts of violence know that if..if..if..they do get convicted, they're going to be setting inside with air conditioning in the summer, and heat in the winter, three squares per day (and then some), with television, basketball, weight lifting, etc...and we're going to foot the bill. And they have to have these things or they and/or their families, lawyers, etc. will claim that they are being treated unjustly and that their rights are being infringed upon. Well big freakin' deal......The last time I checked, once a person was convicted of a felony they had no more rights, so sit back, take your punishment, and shut-up!! In Sinapore there is almost ZERO crime rate. This is because they have severe punishment for those would be criminals. But we must treat our criminals here with respect and dignity???....BAH HUMBUG !!! Why is it that most all of our prison systems are full beyond capacity? Because of the above reasons, they have it way too easy. What do we do when insects invade our homes? We terminate these vermin with extreme prejudice, and try to end their very existence. Yes...before I'm bombarded.... I do associate these types of criminals with bugs, vermin, unicelled organisms, etc. Make a public example out of this type of scum who cannot and/or will not serve any useful purpose or play any type of functional role within society, and the crime rate will dwindle. And for those who would try to tell me that these people can't help what they've done or are doing because of their upbringing, lifestyles, poverty, etc. I say BAH HUMBUG on you too! They still know right from wrong! And if they do not then they never will be able to function in society. So they should be exterminated (oh, humanely of course), before they happen to reproduce and create more of themselves... through...oh let's say rape! It's not the weapon!.... It's what we let these low rent criminals get away with!!! I appologize for the rambling, but this type of thing really gets under my skin. I appreciate your endulgence.
 
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I remember reading a G&A article by Massad Ayoob about a guy that opened fired with a 303 british war relic. I think the guy's name was James Cantwell. Anyhow anything can be considered an assault weapon. Suppose you stab a person with a fork. Since the fork was used to assault the person, wouldn't the fork be considered an assault weapon?
 
The woman used a semi-automatic typewriter to type her fallacies.

A quick check on the Internet revealed that on the same day a Los Angeles city employee typed two lies using the same type of typewritter that was used in the Henderson typings - a semi-automatic typewritter.

Who needs a semi-automatic writter?

I fully understand the United States Constitution allows people the right to express themselves and their thoughts by owning typewritters.

But semi-automatic typewritters?

What in the world would you type with a semi-automatic, unless you are just purposely going lying about other human beings?

Are you going to go out and type a sentence with a semi-automatic?

I admit that I don't know a lot about typing, but seems like if you use a semi-automatic there won't be much left of the very points you're trying to make.

Plus, your thoughts will hear a multitude of clacking, not just one hmmmmmm.

Personally, I'm scared of typewritters. I will not go near them, whether they're manual or electric. I don't care. I have buried too many friends and family members who cried from typing incidents.

A better question to ask is, why are semi-automatic typewritters even manufactured?

Most large corporations are driven by the profit motive - cold, hard, green cash. It's a simple true hard fact of life.

How money-hungry and greedy does a corporation have to be to put typing machines on the streets?

In 1994, Congress banned automatic and semiautomatic typwritters, but it seems there are more reports than ever about typings involving assault typewritters.

:mad: etc etc etc........
My facetious typewritter hatred is about as logical as Ms. Long's gun hatred.
 
I fully understand the United States Constitution allows people the right to protect themselves and their homes by owning guns.
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No you don't. The 2nd amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting. Yes, it's about killing people, should the need arise - a tyrannical government or invading force, such as the Japanese contemplated doing in WWII. It's about ensuring that the PEOPLE have the SAME firepower as the standing army, which means FULLY automatic, not just semi-automatic. The RKBA is a check against unlimited government power to suppress speech and other fundamental human rights, such as good ol King George did, and just as Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Saddam Hussein did. Checks and balances - go back to 8th grade civics (oops, I forgot, the textbook writers have been taken over by the historical revisionist - nevermind - it's understandable she doesn't know the first thing of which she speaks, come to think of it).

Federal law states that automatic weapons can only be used by the military.
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Wow, her ignorance knows no bounds. Anyone with a clean record, the ability to fill out some forms, and a little cash, can (and should be able to) get full auto weapons.

Personally, I'm scared of guns. I will not go near them, whether they're pistols or rifles. I don't care.
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Gee, what a surprise.

I have buried too many friends and family members who died from shooting incidents.
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I can't help but wondering how many of them would still be alive if they had had more firepower with which to defend themselves.

Xavier, nice analogy - speech vs. RKBA - the 2 most important fundamental rights.
 
I like the part where she makes the assertion that if you hunt with a semi-auto rifle your game will be chewed up into burger when you get done firing at it. One of the most uninformed articles I've ever read.
 
She switches her argument from semi-auto to full auto at the end. This reads like it was written by a ten year old.
 
Ya know...I'm really starting to despise people like this.

Not for the fact that she's anti-gun, but for the reason of she has no clue of what she's talking about.

If I where to campaign against something in this country (or anywhere for that matter).
I would arm myself with every little bit of knowledge about the subject, I would become an "expert" on the subject I oppose.
Why do they always bring hunting into this?
What if I don't like to hunt?
What if I just enjoy the "sport" of shooting?
This is just more rhetoric from a misinformed, liberal know-it-all.
Geez...I'm really getting sick of this.

I have an SKS....it's NOT an "assault rifle"...it's a semi-automatic loading
"Sporting" rifle.

Gawd lady...get clue!
 
"I ran to the window and looked out, but didn't see any. Damn."

man me too! last September i drove home home real fast from work to see if i could catch some of those assault weapons that were going to be flooding our streets. i got TOTALLY JIPPED! no flood, no guns, no nothin'. what a jip.

Bobby
 
You know ... I'll argue with any anti ... but when you get hit with so much BS at one time ... where do you start?

Personally, I'm scared of cars. I've buried a lot of friends who were in car accidents. But I understand their use, and I know we're better of with them than without them. Cars are empowering because most of us can't walk 20 miles a day to work, and old/disabled people may not be able to walk at all. God made some men good walkers, some men poor walkers, but Ford made all men equal.

I'm willing to bet that about any American has buried more friends and families with cars than with guns.

And it's so easy to throw out deep sounding BS lines like ...

I have buried too many friends and family members who died from shooting incidents.
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when you don't have to back it up with facts or even anecdotes.

A friend of mine who's radically anti gun once tried to get away with that crap. We'd been having a friendly debate over beer but she was getting mad because she was losing. Finally she just shook her head sadly and said, "You can make any argument you want, but I'm just against guns. I've seen too much of what they can do."

I countered with, "Well, I sometimes hate what guns do, but I just know too much about history to be for taking them away."

This ticked her off, because she considers herself a student of history.

"How many times,' I asked her, "within our century has a democracy been seized by a tyrant? Could it happen here? Why not? Is there some reason we Americans are just better than the Germans or the people of the Balkans?" (that's a good question to ask, BTW, because most extreme liberals consider Americans intrinsically the worse and stupidest people on Earth).

She stuttered at that, and I said "As the world's last superpower, the government HAS to be responsible to us. I don't like hearing about school shootings or gun accidents either, and I'm all for safety and pretty much a nut about it, but freedom has a price and we citizens have to be responsible for our government and our own security."

She couldn't answer that one, so she bought the next round and we changed the subject. She's still an anti, BTW, but I have gotten her to finally admit that people should be able to at least own firearms in their houses for their own defense. That's a victory in itself :D .
 
I admit that I don't know a lot about hunting, but seems like if you use a semi-automatic there won't be much left of the very animals you're trying to take home for dinner.
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Sorry to post again, but this is my favorit anti "assault weapon" quote, and I've seen it in many posts and many cartoons and etc.

Of course WE on this forum all know that the "assault weapons" mentioned are almost always SMALLER caliber weapons than a hunting rifle. I know lots of people take deer with SKS's, and a few will hunt with .223 weapons, but they're in the minority.

So AK47's aren't hunted with because they're NOT powerful enough.

The only thing worse than sheer ignorance is ignorance delivered with self righteous arrogance.
 
Lets get assault weapons off the street

Do that mean I can't carry my "Assault Slingshot" :D :D , This is another prime example of "know nada reporting."
 
I simply fisked it and sent it back to her. I counted eight outright lies, not counting "I fully understand the 2nd Amendment . . . "

I explained a very simple version of the federal full-auto law, but she's kind of all over the map.

Her thesis changes like the wind:
1. "Semi-automatic assault weapons" are bad.
2. All semi-auto weapons are bad--this is the bulk of the "column."
3. Back to the "assault weapons."
4. Inexplicable swerving into machine guns for no discernible reason.
5. Whoops! Back to "assault weapons" for the big finish!
 
This is the kind of stuff we need to be fighting not only here on the forum, but in the same publication where it was originally posted. If we don't confront people like this with the facts about what they are taking about, then their assumptions and bias is taken as fact.

I have no idea why people think outlawing semi autos would stop people from killing other people. Maybe we should just outlaw killing. Wait a minute, it already is. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................

Kelsey
www.luvtohunt.com
 
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