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How to Bring Manufacturing Back Home
By Patrick J. Buchanan - September 29, 2006


In July, our trade deficit hit yet another all-time record, $68 billion, an annual rate of $816 billion. Imports surged to $188 billion for the month, as our dependency on foreigners for the vital necessities of our national life ever deepens.

China’s trade surplus with us was $19.6 billion for July alone, moving toward an all-time record of $235 billion for 2006 – the largest trade deficit one country has ever run with another. Our deficit with Mexico is running at an annual rate of $60 billion. With Canada, it is $70 billion. So much for NAFTA. With the European Union, it is running at $160 billion.

America as the most self-sufficient republic in history is history. For decades, U.S. factories have been closing. Three million manufacturing jobs have disappeared since Bush arrived. Ford and GM are fighting for their lives.

Bu****es boast of all the new jobs created, but Business Week tells the inconvenient truth: “Since 2001, 1.7 million new jobs have been created in the health care sector. … Meanwhile, the number of private sector jobs outside of health care is no higher than it was five years ago.”

“Perhaps most surprising,” writes BW, “information technology, the great electronic promise of the 1990s, has turned into one of the biggest job- growth disappointments of all time. … (B)usinesses at the core of the information economy – software, semiconductors, telecom and the whole gamut of Web companies – have lost more than 1.1 million jobs in the past five years. Those business employ fewer Americans than they did in 1998, when the Internet economy kicked into high gear.”

Where did the high-tech go? China. Beijing’s No. 1 export to the United States in 2005, $50 billion worth, was computers and electronics.

If Americans are the most efficient workers on earth and work longer hours than almost any other advanced nation, why are we getting our clocks cleaned? Answer: While American workers are world-class, our elites are mentally challenged. So rhapsodic are they about the Global Economy they have forgotten their own country. Europeans, Japanese, Canadians and Chinese sell us so much more than they buy from us because they have rigged the rules of world trade.

While the United States has a corporate income tax, our trade rivals use a value-added tax. At each level of production, a tax is imposed on the value added to the product. Under the rules of global trade, nations may rebate VAT levies on exports, and impose the equivalent of a VAT on imports.

Assume a VAT that adds up to 15 percent of the cost of a new car in Japan. If Toyota ships 1 million cars to the United States valued at $20,000 each, $20 billion worth of Toyotas, they can claim a rebate of the VAT of $3,000 on each car, or $3 billion – a powerful incentive to export. But each U.S. car arriving at the Yokohama docks will have 15 percent added to its sticker price to make up for Japan’s VAT.

This amounts to a foreign subsidy on exports to the United States and a foreign tax on imports from America. Uncle Sam gets hit coming and going. It is as though, after firing a round of 66 in the Masters, Tiger Woods has five strokes added to his score for a 71, and five strokes are subtracted from the scores of his rivals. Even Tiger would bring home few trophies with those kind of ground rules.

The total tax disadvantage to U.S. producers – of VAT rebates and VAT equivalents imposed on U.S. products – is estimated at $294 billion.

Exported U.S services face the same double whammy. A VAT equivalent is imposed on them, while the exported services of foreign providers get the VAT rebate. Disadvantage to U.S. services: $85 billion annually.

Why do our politicians not level the playing field for U.S. companies?

First, ignorance of how world trade works. Second, ideology. These robotic free-traders recoil from any suggestion that they aid U.S. producers against unfair foreign tactics as interfering with Adam Smith’s “invisible hand,” which they equate with the hand of the Almighty.

Third, they are hauling water for transnational companies that want to move production overseas and shed their U.S. workers.

How could we level the playing field? Simple. Impose an “equalizing fee” on imports equal to the rebates. Take the billions raised, and cut taxes on U.S. companies, especially in production. Create a level playing field for U.S. goods and services in foreign markets, and increase the competitiveness of U.S. companies in our own home market by reducing their tax load.

U.S. trade deficits would shrivel overnight. And jobs and factories lately sent abroad would start coming home.

Isn’t it time we put America first – even ahead of China?


SOURCE: http://www.buchanan.org
 
CORRECT!!

I would, however, support the idea of "Mirror Tariffs". Each nation's own dealings with the US through protective Tariffs would be mirrored by us. Many countries support businesses against international incursion into their markets via such tariffs. A mirror policy would have the effect of reducing their abilities to sell their own products to large markets on an economically attrtactive basis.:)
 
Don't forget - those same Chinese who are allowed to import crap here are funding a big part of our deficit. Bush isn't going to screw around with this relationship - they're helping him dig the big hole by buying our bonds.
 
I'm amazed that the United States has managed to grow and prosper these past two hundred years. What with all of the "mistakes" that everyone here says we make, and with the superhuman traits ascribed to various foreign powers, and internal demons.

Has anyone ever stopped to wonder where all of this information comes from? Most of it, like the Intelligence Review fiasco, is spin by politicians. Reported by the MSM. The same MSM that we rail against for not reporting the truth. Why is it that we're no better than the "sheeple" when it comes to repeating as gospel the maunderings of the same people who gave us the Assault Weapon Ban, and the viciously untrue statistics used to help get it passed? :confused:
 
Most of the trade deficit with Canada is because of the rise in the price of oil. Canada supplies the US with more oil than any other single country, including Saudi arabia. Canada also supplies the US with natural gas, electric power, lumber, uranium, nickel and aluminum. So most Canadian exports to the US are raw materials. I don't think this is something to complain about. The US needs a reliable source of these commodities and Canada is located conveniently next door.

Canada also buys 25% of US exports. Most of these are manufactured goods. So I think free trade is working pretty good for both countries.

There has been a lot of stories in the news about US auto makers shutting down factories, yet Ford, GM, Toyota and Honda are all opening factories in Canada. The reason stated by Honda is that the small town Canadians have a better work ethic than the big city Americans. This is not my opinion remember, so don't flame me. I am just relating what I've read.

As for Mexico, the sooner the border is sealed, the better. You are in a de- facto state of war with them. Between the drug cartels and the illegal alians, the reconquista is happening right now!

BTW, there is a pipeline being built right now from the oil fields of Alberta to the Pacific coast, by Chinese investors, so that Canadian oil can be shipped to China. This will reduce your deficit with Canada and will reduce Canada's deficit with China. However, that means you will need to find new supplies of oil. If those supplies are not domestic, your deficit (with the Arabs?) will increase further, since the price of oil will be bid up by the Chinese, but at least you won't be able to blame Canada.
 
Funny thing, we used to make a lot more stuff at home, but then found a lot of the really expensive stuff wasn't of a consistently good quality and that it could be made cheaper overseas. Chryseler nearly went belly up because of the crap they were trying to sell to the public. Americans found they didn't want to pay premium prices for borderline materials and somewhere along the way, even things like processed steel from Japan could be imported cheaper and to spec than it could be made at many places in the US.

The US would like to be self sufficient, but consumers don't want to shoulder the price of high union wages and high non-union (compared to many parts of the world) wage for a lot of the processing of materials that would need to be made here or made here in higher volumes to make this happen.

Ford and GM are fighting for their lives.
They have had some significant quality control issues, especially given the cost of the products produced.

There are some very good reasons jobs are going overseas and many are not solely based in the political realm.


4RHeritage is partially correct in that there is some very good points about importing raw materials from other countries. Things like oil and other natural resources may be present in the US, but as natural and non-renewable resources, they are limited. We should we use up our own natural resources when we can use up somebody else's? I always liked how folks think we should cut off foreign imports of oil because we do have our own oil reserves, but when would we be in a tighter bind, now, or when the only option we have for oil is foreign...that is if we used up all of our own? In a world that continues to run on fossil fuel, it would be stupid for a superpower to run out of said fuel before everyone else, thereby becoming crippled and weak. It is best that we use up as much as we can of other countries' fossil fuel such that if push comes to shove, we still have ours when we need it.
 
JR47, Pat Buchanan is not the "mainstream media" - he goes against the grain more often than not. So that premise is blown. Since he's no longer a prez. candidate, I believe that he tells the truth (as he sees it, anyhow).
 
The premise is solid. Pat Buchanan isn't the only source so often quoted by you, or others, in the political forum. He "states the truth as he sees it" is probably a good excuse, but hardly guarantees veracity. Of course, in stating this as you did, it would appear that you are in agreement, as far as truths go.:)
 
I'm neither in agreement or not (yet - I'm undecided, and thus trying to fairly analyze and consider your argument/position). I'm merely pointing out that Pat is just about the farthest thing from the "MSM" that you can find. Since that was a premise of your argument, one must now question your conclusions. Can you restructure your above post (#5) without trying to lump him in with the "MSM"? Or are you maintaining that he IS indeed a component of the "MSM"?
 
I was actually commenting on the overall bent of posts like #4. I'm not accusing Pat of being a "talking head".

The fact is, that we all seem guilty of "trusting" the MSM for information about varied subjects. I see entirely too many people allow their opinions of a politician to overwhelm their good sense.

If we are to believe that the Chinese are taking advantage of us by propping us up, and the Japanese, and the rest of the world, we must be the most gullible people alive. We must also not be the United States of America any longer, either.

While our trade deficit does appear ominous, just how much of it is "electronic manipulation" by the companies reporting it? By that I mean the products are made in another country, while the companies are still wholly-owned by American Corporations. The profit still comes back to the U.S., but is diluted by each division of the company "selling" to one another. It's more of an international shell-game, than a true representation of the market.

Many, if not most, of our "issues" are the result of a rival "crafting" reports to show the other side in as poor a light as possible.

Look at the supposedly "buying the USA" Chinese. They are still trying to develop huge areas of their country. Their infrastructure is non-existent in much of the outlying provinces. They are also politically unusual in their dealings with the world, and it hurts them.

The Chinese have recently begun "formulating policy" to keep their industries "competitive in the marketplace". That, according to the political watch in Hot Rod Magazine (of all places) includes requiring manufacturers to release proprietary information, tooling, and intellectual property to the Chinese government as a means to continue the manufacture and sales of goods in China. How well do you think that will go over?

The Chinese have already announced plans to redirect five rivers from their natural flow to the south. They will redirect them to flow north, and reclaim arid lands. One of these rivers is the Mekong. They will, by doing this, destroy the economy, and the lives, of residents all over SE Asia. The damage will stretch all the way to India.

The Chinese are expanding their claims to the Sprately Islands. These are located South of China, and are claimed by both Vietnam, and the Philippines. The Spratelys may hold huge reserves of oil.

The Chinese are again speaking of "reuniting" the "run-away" province of Taiwan. By force, if necessary.

All in all, any of these scenarios would result in a state of war for China. The nations of SE Asia, if they were to unite, coupled with India, would actually outnumber the Chinese. The Islamist factions of the Western part of China would soon be in open revolt, and the Taiwanese could further incite rebellion. This would also result in a resurgent Japanese military. Another headache for the Chinese.

With any attempt to "nationalize" foreign plants in China, the US has the perfect excuse to declare Chinese assets on the continent as "nationalized" in return. Sounds like a lose-lose set-up that the Chinese have "outmanuvered" us into.:)
 
Washington mutual recently sent all of its call center jobs to the Philipines.

All of its fraud investigations are handled by a bunch of philipinos...nothing against the philipnes.... but isnt it ironic that our federal fraud laws are protected by philipinos?
 
When we get to more than 50% of the people in the US being unemployed and the result is a major economic collapse (and I think this will happen), maybe then some of the factories will return. I think it will be the only way for people to get jobs back and the economy going again.

So many people have lost good paying jobs due to closures and had to take jobs barely making minimum wage that I believe a major collapse is definite.

It's just a question of when.
 
We need inventions!

To jump start things again with tax exemptions for 5 yrs for a great invention that helps the economy. Reward companies for staying and tariff the ones that have left. They should never be welcomed here again. Outlaw the lobbyists, and reward the good hard working people by stopping the illegals. Bust the companies hiring them on racketeering, taking all their assets, just like a drug bust.
 
So many people have lost good paying jobs due to closures and had to take jobs barely making minimum wage that I believe a major collapse is definite.

And there is part of the competitive problem. When a given product can be produced for less overseas and shipped to the US and sold for less than what it costs to make it in the US, then the US isn't competitive in that product area. The funny thing is, we complain about losing jobs or low paying jobs and the funny thing is that we complain about having to pay higher prices.

It is tough to have a lot of good paying jobs in the US and have market lower cost products. In fact, without government subsidies that raise taxes, it doesn't seem to happen. You raise wages and therefore you raise costs and therefore you must sell a product for more money to break even and/or make any profit. The employee buys the expensive product, needs more wages, gets more wages and product cost goes up and hence price goes up...or industry mechanizes with machines to save money, firing employees along the way...

It is a tough game.
 
Lots of media spin in this thread, month of July we had a billion dollar
trade deficit with China, one country one month. America produces very
little hard products and in my opinion not a good path to be on, at this rate
China and other countries only need to wait no need for bombs.

Economics 101 :rolleyes:
 
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