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pirogoeth

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is its legal to own the auto sear, rate reducer, and full auto disconnecter for an AK47 as well as own a complete rifle?
 
If you own a registered, fully automatic AK-47, then those are merely spare parts and perfectly legal to own. If you only own a semi-auto AK-47, possession of those parts constitutes "constructive possession" of an illegal (unregistered) machinegun. Mere possession is illegal and will get you 10 years in club Fed. They do not have to be installed.
 
Semantics. You are still in possession of full auto parts with a semi-auto firearm. There is no legal reason to have them.
 
is the part legal to own with the tail cut off?

and if they are not legal to own why was i sold the kit with all the FA parts?
 
Because it is not illegal to "sell" full auto parts. You may be able to get away with keeping the full auto parts and never get in trouble because it still requires machining and drilling the receiver in order to use them. However, you also may not get away. It is recommended to those purchasing a parts kit to displose of the full auto parts to avoid any trouble. It simply isn't worth the hassle if some ATF/LEO decides they want to go after you.
 
"Readily convertable". I can have FA trigger packs as cufflinks, as long as I don't have any AK's. You could have M16 DIAS's as earrings, as long as you don't have a rec.
 
Interesting about spare parts. I had a registered selective fire carbine (M1 with a GI kit). I was told by what was then ATTD that I could have any spare parts as long as I did not have the full set of six parts that make up the "kit" (hammer, sear, disconnector, disconnector lever, selector, slide). If I had a spare for everything, I was in possession of another machinegun and it had to be registered as such.

Jim
 
called and spoke to an agent at the ATF, as long as that receiver wasn't drilled for the 3rd hole it was legal.

bit late now.
 
Word of warning about speaking to ATF agents. If you are seeking an interpretation, write to ATF and get a written response. Their rulings change faster than the weather, and individual agents aren't always aware of the latest and greatest. For example, they recently ruled a 10/22 rifle stock to be a machinegun.
 
the gray bar hotel is better than it once was 10 years will go by fast and besides you will make friends there and you will have a new experiance in being a man and you will be a hero with all your friends and family even some people here.I mean seriously in my opinion its a joke to go 10 years in a prison for owning a auto sear or some full auto gun even though you have a clean record a Rapist gets less time in prison than that.
All I have to say is that our justice system is severely flawed and corrupt.
 
Well, you can cry and moan about the nasty old law, and rant to your lawyer, and to the judge if you get a chance, but that's the way it is. I have little sympathy for people who know what they are doing is against the law and do it anyway just because it is "cool" or they want to tweak the cops. That is pretty juvenile behavior, but the consequences can be rough, especially when a conviction means not only a fine and possible jail time, but also means no more guns, ever. Want to give up guns for the rest of your life just to have the "thrill" of owning a couple of pieces of steel you won't and can't use anyway?

Jim
 
I still think its one of the most worthless and stupidest gun law in our entire country going to prison for owning a peice of steel that can make the gun shoot faster.I personally wont take that risk because I am not about to be Bubbas Girl friend because of it.But some people have balls and do it anyway and I give them a toast otherwise I am not taking such a big unneccesary risk.I dont know why the Government does not focus on the violent criminals instead of bothering normal people and trying to intimidate them the whole time.Anyways full auto is overrated though it costs alot of money for the ammo you shoot and its less accurate because of the spray and pray tactic alot of people use and its expensive as hell to own a full auto gun the politically correct way.I think there should not be any gun laws everyone good should own any gun they want and they should have no problems with self defense either.

A guy using a semi-auto rifle is more effective because he actually aims at the target and does not waste as much ammo as someone with full auto rifle.
But semi-auto will be banned if a socialist president is in power then all thats left is Elmer fuddite guns and registration.I will keep my semi-auto rifle no matter what and you should too for real.
 
Wait, if you have all the parts to convert an AK, you have a MG even without an AK. If you have any FA parts installed that cause your AK to fire FA then you have a MG, or if your AK fires FA even w/o the parts. If you have some parts, but not all, and they're not installed and your AK doesn't fire FA then it's not a MG. It is illegal to sell a "collection of parts" to convert to a MG unless sold as spares to someone who has a registered FA firearm.
 
Are you a gambler? You're betting your future on whether or not you get caught with a few parts. Ever piss anyone off that might know about the parts? Ever talk to anyone about the parts? How many people out there could drop a dime on you?

Even if there's no prison time, it will still be a conviction of some sort, probably felony, and many thousands of dollars for your defense. If it is a felony conviction you loose all your guns, and will you still have a job? In some states you loose voting rights, and you'd be barred from most government jobs at any level, and you'd loose the ability to be bonded. All that over a few parts!?

Your decision to make.

Wish you well.
 
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