this showed up in my email 2day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We are offering methods besides writing your Congressman.
You may want to save this as reference material. The
following is applicable to California and other People's
Republic states such as Connecticut, New Jersey, and
Maryland. Coming will be other articles on the "how to"
defend yourself against the tyranny that is coming: Running
Campaigns, Unregistering Your Gun, and Effective Lobbying.
Just Say, "Go Away."
Rights are like muscles, you must exercise them or they
gradually weaken. The following information is provided as a
public service by The Lawyer's Second Amendment Society,
Inc.
Disclaimer: The following is not legal advice but is for
informational purposes only. You should use your own
judgment and/or consult an attorney before deciding what to
do.
August 20, 1999 The Attorney General of the State of
California ("AG") is embarking on a massive effort to
confiscate firearms (so-called "assault weapons") in the
possession of United States citizens residing in the State of
California. You may see evidence of this at http://www.sksbuyback.org. The Attorney General, Bill
Lockyer, plans to have his agents attempt to trick the citizens
into voluntarily handing over these firearms to them. Luckily
for the citizens, they have protections from such trickery. You
need to know how to assert your rights if you want to defeat
this trickery, whether in this instance or in the future as the
government becomes even more depraved as it tries to take
away more and more of our inalienable rights. Following is
some information about your rights that the government
hopes you don't know.
Our right to keep and bear arms is one of those inalienable
rights "endowed by [our] Creator," as set forth in the
Declaration of Independence. The GunTruths.com web site
(http://www.GunTruths.com) provides ample evidence that
our right to keep and bear arms is an inalienable, individual
right retained by the people and protected and guaranteed by
the Bill of Rights. We must use the Bill of Rights to preserve
and protect our rights. We must not voluntarily cede our
inalienable rights to the government. Inalienable rights, by
their nature, cannot be given, or taken, away.
The AG hopes that the good citizens residing in California will
voluntarily cede their right to keep and bear arms. The
government of California is embarking on a test of the
citizens residing in California to see whether they will
voluntarily turn in their SKS Sporters and register their
"assault weapons." If the good citizens residing in California
voluntarily turn in their SKS Sporters, and register these other
weapons voluntarily, the AG will have achieved its goal at
relatively little cost, and will have learned that even the gun-
owning citizens are weak and ignorant of their rights. The
ultimate goal of the current government of the State of
California is to slowly, incrementally, confiscate all firearms of
military pattern so that the citizens will no longer have the
means to be the "well regulated militia, necessary to the
security of a free State," referenced in the Second
Amendment to the United States Constitution.
The AG hopes that the good citizens residing in California will
not know, and assert, the rights their forefathers fought and
died for. The AG hopes it will be able to intimidate the good
people into voluntarily turning in, or registering, their weapons
by threatening them with felony prosecutions, and jail
sentences. These threats are being communicated on the
internet, in letters to selected individuals and through
advertisements on the radio and through other media.
What The Government Hopes Won't Happen
What if the good citizens did the following upon receiving a
knock on their doors?
The citizen calls through the door, "Who is it?"
The reply is, "I'm police officer/deputy sheriff/special agent
Smith."
The citizen replies, "Go away. I'm not interested in spending
any of my time talking to you. Get off my property."
That should do it. The agent of the government might be a
little more persistent, but if the good citizen understands, and
asserts, his rights against the government, the above
scenario is all that should happen.
Why? Because no citizen is required to talk to anyone from
the government unless he wants to. You have the right to be
left alone. Unless the government has probable cause to
suspect you of a crime, you are free to be left alone. You do
not even have to produce "identity papers." Yet. The Fifth
Amendment protects the citizen's right to be free from
incriminating himself in a criminal case.
What The Government Hopes Will Happen
Upon knocking on your door, and you opening it, the police
officer/deputy sheriff/special agent will say, "I'm Officer Smith
and this is my partner Officer Jones. We understand you are
in possession of an illegal assault weapon and we're here to
retrieve it." They may wave papers in your face, such as a
record of sale.
You say, "Oh, well in that case, come on in. I'll show you
where it is. I figured you'd find me."
Then they will confiscate your firearm and arrest you. Later,
when your attorney files a motion to suppress the evidence
before your trial, the judge will deny the motion on the
grounds that you volunteered the evidence to the police. You
will then be convicted of being in possession of an "illegal"
firearm.
Other Things You May Want To Think About
If you are in possession of a so-called "illegal" SKS Sporter
or "assault weapon," you should consider purchasing an
inexpensive dictation tape recorder and an inexpensive video
camera, and keeping it near your front door. When the
agents from the government (and they will come in pairs, as
they are cowardly) come to your door, you should be in a
position to gather evidence of their trickeries. They will try to
trick you.
For example, they may say, "We know you have an illegal
firearm in your house. We want it. It is illegal for you to have
it. You must let us in, pursuant to the new law." And, as
mentioned above, they may say they have "evidence" that a
certain weapon was sold to you.
One response would be the same as above, "Go away. I'm
not interested in spending any of my time talking to you. Get
off my property. I'm recording this."
Tell them you are recording this event. That will get their
attention. You may want to set up a system whereby you can
speed dial your phone to a neighbor who can also be
videotaping the officers outside your door.
Another alternative response could by, "Slide your search
warrant under my door." The government agents will almost
certainly not have a search warrant, provided you have been
very circumspect in the recent past about what firearms you
own. Why, then, would it be almost certain that the
government agents will not have a search warrant? Because,
according to the Fourth Amendment of the United States
Constitution, "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable
cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched, and the persons or
things to be seized." Did you know that Article 1 of the
California Constitution is a Declaration of Rights, and that
section 13 of the Declaration of Rights says: "The right of the
people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and
effects against unreasonable seizures and searches may not
be violated; and a warrant may not issue except on probable
cause, supported by oath or affirmation, particularly
describing the place to be searched and the persons and
things to be seized?" (The full text of the California
Constitution can be found at http://www.ca.gov/s/govt/govcode.html.
You must ask yourself this question, "What judge is going to
issue a search warrant to search my home for an allegedly
illegal firearm, if I haven't had anyone in my home recently
who might be a snitch, who would be able to say under oath,
'I saw this man in possession of an illegal firearm of a certain
type, and it was stored in this location in his house and I saw
it this morning?'" If the only "evidence" the government has
is that months earlier you purchased a certain weapon, that
in itself would only tell a judge that on that date you may have
been in possession of that firearm. In the meantime, you
could have disposed of it (you could have thrown it away in
your trash), you might have dismantled it, thrown it in a lake,
taken it out of state, etc., etc.
If you have not advertised to anyone your possession of your
"illegal" firearms, it is highly unlikely that the government will
have sufficient evidence that probable cause exists that you
are in possession of illegal contraband (that is, that you are in
possession of an "illegal" firearm). Thus, you must ask
yourself whether you are able to take the small risk that you
are wrong.
Even if the government agent has obtained a search warrant,
after complying with the search, you may challenge the legal
sufficiency of the search warrant. The government will have
to sustain its burden of proof that the required showing of
probable cause was actually based on credible, recent
evidence. This will be a heavy burden, because in every case
the eyewitness claiming that you were in possession of the
"illegal" firearm would have to make a showing that your
possession was close in time to the issuance of the warrant
and that the eyewitness was in a position to "particularly
describ[e] the place to be searched and the persons and
things to be seized" according to the dictates of the Fourth
Amendment of the United States Constitution and section 13
of the Declaration of Rights of the California Constitution. In
every case, the government will only have reason to suspect
that you are in possession of the "illegal" firearm based upon
some information they received many months ago. It is just
as likely that you are no longer in possession of the "illegal"
firearm as it is that it is still in your possession; therefore,
without more, there is no probable cause to believe you are
currently violating the law. Since you may not be required to
answer any of the government's questions about whether you
are in possession of an "illegal" firearm, the government has
no way of finding out whether its suspicions are correct.
If you really want to have some fun, and burn up some of the
government agents' time (taking away time they might
otherwise use to try to trick other citizens of their firearms),
you may want to do the following:
When they identify themselves outside your door, slide a
Public Servant Questionnaire under the door to each of them,
and tell them you'd be happy to talk to them if they will
answer each of the questions set forth on the form. You may
get a copy of the Public Servant Questionnaire at http://www.GunTruths.com (click on the cartridge above "I
Believe In Self Defense" and then scroll down to the "Get
Involved" heading). If you do this, it is doubtful they will
continue to talk to you. Probably, they will have been told not
to waste their time on citizens who seem to understand their
rights and they will leave and go to the next name and
address on their list.
Assuming they do fill out the form completely, you may want
to then ask them whether they are armed with loaded
firearms. If they say yes, you should tell them that you will let
them into your house to talk with them only if they will return
without their firearms. Then you should also tell them that
you'd like to first obtain some witnesses to eyewitness the
meeting in your home, and further explain that you'd like to
have them sit in front of your pre-positioned video camera
and near your tape recorder. If they tell you that you don't
have the right to audiotape and videotape them, they will be
lying. Remember, these are your public servants. Then let
them come into your house, unarmed, to ask your permission
to answer some questions. Let them ask whatever questions
they choose. In response to each, simply say, "I choose not
to answer that question." Or you might ask them, in response
to every question they ask, whether you are required to
answer the question. Again, you'll have this all on audio tape
and videotape and have at least one witness. When they are
finished, politely show them the door.
Use your imagination.
Another Right We Have At Our Disposal That The
Government Fears
Under Article VI of the United States Constitution, and
Sections 15 and 16 of the Declaration of Rights in the
California Constitution, all defendants in criminal
prosecutions shall enjoy the right to a speedy trial, by an
impartial jury of twelve jurors. The AG does not want to be
faced with overcoming the foregoing hurdles, plus having to
convince all twelve jurors on a jury that you ought to go to jail
just because you were in possession of what just a few
months earlier had been perfectly legal to own. The AG fears
fully informed jurors who know that they have the power to
judge both the law and the facts, and who will be willing to
acquit you of the victimless crime of possessing an "illegal"
firearm that was formerly perfectly legal to own. You should
learn more about the Fully Informed Jury Association (FIJA),
which is on the Links page at The Lawyer's Second
Amendment Society, Inc. web site, http://www.thelsas.org.
The Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution is short, to
the point and written in English. The Fourth Amendment is
easy to understand. The Attorney General hopes you don't
understand any of your rights. Don't let them trick you. If the
first one hundred attempts at trickery fail, the government will
give up. Don't be fooled. Learn your rights and exercise
them!
Disclaimer: The foregoing is not legal advice but is for
informational purposes only. You should use your own
judgment or consult an attorney before deciding what to do.
****************************
The 2ndAmendmentNews Team
The way to protect your own rights is to protect the rights of
others. Our right to own and use firearms is under attack.
This list was created in a hurry due to the emergency
presented by anti-gun politicians and the media dancing in
the blood of those who died in the Colorado massacre.
We receive e-mail addresses from various sources that
represent the recipients as receptive to our timely, low-to-
moderate volume gun-rights-related alerts (generally no more
than weekly, never more than daily, depending on legislative
and other circumstances). Occasionally recipients turn out to
be not interested, and we remove them immediately with our
sincere apology for any inconvenience. If you wish to be
removed send an e mail to 2ndamendmentnews-
owner@onelist.com and include "unsubscribe".
If you know anyone who would appreciate these alerts,
please let us know and we'll enroll them on a trial basis.
Also, feel free to forward our alerts.
If you've received this as a forward and wish to subscribe
please send a reply to me at luz.clark@prodigy.net or
behanna@fast.net
Cordially Yours,
The 2ndAmendmentNews Team
2ndAmendmentNews is published by volunteer activists who
support the full original individual rights intent of the 2nd
Amendment and oppose any appeasement on gun rights.
The moderators include Chris Behanna, Weldon Clark (an
NRA director) and Steve Cicero.
------------------
will you stand with me in DC on 10-2-99?
http://www.myplanet.net/jeffhead/LibMarch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We are offering methods besides writing your Congressman.
You may want to save this as reference material. The
following is applicable to California and other People's
Republic states such as Connecticut, New Jersey, and
Maryland. Coming will be other articles on the "how to"
defend yourself against the tyranny that is coming: Running
Campaigns, Unregistering Your Gun, and Effective Lobbying.
Just Say, "Go Away."
Rights are like muscles, you must exercise them or they
gradually weaken. The following information is provided as a
public service by The Lawyer's Second Amendment Society,
Inc.
Disclaimer: The following is not legal advice but is for
informational purposes only. You should use your own
judgment and/or consult an attorney before deciding what to
do.
August 20, 1999 The Attorney General of the State of
California ("AG") is embarking on a massive effort to
confiscate firearms (so-called "assault weapons") in the
possession of United States citizens residing in the State of
California. You may see evidence of this at http://www.sksbuyback.org. The Attorney General, Bill
Lockyer, plans to have his agents attempt to trick the citizens
into voluntarily handing over these firearms to them. Luckily
for the citizens, they have protections from such trickery. You
need to know how to assert your rights if you want to defeat
this trickery, whether in this instance or in the future as the
government becomes even more depraved as it tries to take
away more and more of our inalienable rights. Following is
some information about your rights that the government
hopes you don't know.
Our right to keep and bear arms is one of those inalienable
rights "endowed by [our] Creator," as set forth in the
Declaration of Independence. The GunTruths.com web site
(http://www.GunTruths.com) provides ample evidence that
our right to keep and bear arms is an inalienable, individual
right retained by the people and protected and guaranteed by
the Bill of Rights. We must use the Bill of Rights to preserve
and protect our rights. We must not voluntarily cede our
inalienable rights to the government. Inalienable rights, by
their nature, cannot be given, or taken, away.
The AG hopes that the good citizens residing in California will
voluntarily cede their right to keep and bear arms. The
government of California is embarking on a test of the
citizens residing in California to see whether they will
voluntarily turn in their SKS Sporters and register their
"assault weapons." If the good citizens residing in California
voluntarily turn in their SKS Sporters, and register these other
weapons voluntarily, the AG will have achieved its goal at
relatively little cost, and will have learned that even the gun-
owning citizens are weak and ignorant of their rights. The
ultimate goal of the current government of the State of
California is to slowly, incrementally, confiscate all firearms of
military pattern so that the citizens will no longer have the
means to be the "well regulated militia, necessary to the
security of a free State," referenced in the Second
Amendment to the United States Constitution.
The AG hopes that the good citizens residing in California will
not know, and assert, the rights their forefathers fought and
died for. The AG hopes it will be able to intimidate the good
people into voluntarily turning in, or registering, their weapons
by threatening them with felony prosecutions, and jail
sentences. These threats are being communicated on the
internet, in letters to selected individuals and through
advertisements on the radio and through other media.
What The Government Hopes Won't Happen
What if the good citizens did the following upon receiving a
knock on their doors?
The citizen calls through the door, "Who is it?"
The reply is, "I'm police officer/deputy sheriff/special agent
Smith."
The citizen replies, "Go away. I'm not interested in spending
any of my time talking to you. Get off my property."
That should do it. The agent of the government might be a
little more persistent, but if the good citizen understands, and
asserts, his rights against the government, the above
scenario is all that should happen.
Why? Because no citizen is required to talk to anyone from
the government unless he wants to. You have the right to be
left alone. Unless the government has probable cause to
suspect you of a crime, you are free to be left alone. You do
not even have to produce "identity papers." Yet. The Fifth
Amendment protects the citizen's right to be free from
incriminating himself in a criminal case.
What The Government Hopes Will Happen
Upon knocking on your door, and you opening it, the police
officer/deputy sheriff/special agent will say, "I'm Officer Smith
and this is my partner Officer Jones. We understand you are
in possession of an illegal assault weapon and we're here to
retrieve it." They may wave papers in your face, such as a
record of sale.
You say, "Oh, well in that case, come on in. I'll show you
where it is. I figured you'd find me."
Then they will confiscate your firearm and arrest you. Later,
when your attorney files a motion to suppress the evidence
before your trial, the judge will deny the motion on the
grounds that you volunteered the evidence to the police. You
will then be convicted of being in possession of an "illegal"
firearm.
Other Things You May Want To Think About
If you are in possession of a so-called "illegal" SKS Sporter
or "assault weapon," you should consider purchasing an
inexpensive dictation tape recorder and an inexpensive video
camera, and keeping it near your front door. When the
agents from the government (and they will come in pairs, as
they are cowardly) come to your door, you should be in a
position to gather evidence of their trickeries. They will try to
trick you.
For example, they may say, "We know you have an illegal
firearm in your house. We want it. It is illegal for you to have
it. You must let us in, pursuant to the new law." And, as
mentioned above, they may say they have "evidence" that a
certain weapon was sold to you.
One response would be the same as above, "Go away. I'm
not interested in spending any of my time talking to you. Get
off my property. I'm recording this."
Tell them you are recording this event. That will get their
attention. You may want to set up a system whereby you can
speed dial your phone to a neighbor who can also be
videotaping the officers outside your door.
Another alternative response could by, "Slide your search
warrant under my door." The government agents will almost
certainly not have a search warrant, provided you have been
very circumspect in the recent past about what firearms you
own. Why, then, would it be almost certain that the
government agents will not have a search warrant? Because,
according to the Fourth Amendment of the United States
Constitution, "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable
cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched, and the persons or
things to be seized." Did you know that Article 1 of the
California Constitution is a Declaration of Rights, and that
section 13 of the Declaration of Rights says: "The right of the
people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and
effects against unreasonable seizures and searches may not
be violated; and a warrant may not issue except on probable
cause, supported by oath or affirmation, particularly
describing the place to be searched and the persons and
things to be seized?" (The full text of the California
Constitution can be found at http://www.ca.gov/s/govt/govcode.html.
You must ask yourself this question, "What judge is going to
issue a search warrant to search my home for an allegedly
illegal firearm, if I haven't had anyone in my home recently
who might be a snitch, who would be able to say under oath,
'I saw this man in possession of an illegal firearm of a certain
type, and it was stored in this location in his house and I saw
it this morning?'" If the only "evidence" the government has
is that months earlier you purchased a certain weapon, that
in itself would only tell a judge that on that date you may have
been in possession of that firearm. In the meantime, you
could have disposed of it (you could have thrown it away in
your trash), you might have dismantled it, thrown it in a lake,
taken it out of state, etc., etc.
If you have not advertised to anyone your possession of your
"illegal" firearms, it is highly unlikely that the government will
have sufficient evidence that probable cause exists that you
are in possession of illegal contraband (that is, that you are in
possession of an "illegal" firearm). Thus, you must ask
yourself whether you are able to take the small risk that you
are wrong.
Even if the government agent has obtained a search warrant,
after complying with the search, you may challenge the legal
sufficiency of the search warrant. The government will have
to sustain its burden of proof that the required showing of
probable cause was actually based on credible, recent
evidence. This will be a heavy burden, because in every case
the eyewitness claiming that you were in possession of the
"illegal" firearm would have to make a showing that your
possession was close in time to the issuance of the warrant
and that the eyewitness was in a position to "particularly
describ[e] the place to be searched and the persons and
things to be seized" according to the dictates of the Fourth
Amendment of the United States Constitution and section 13
of the Declaration of Rights of the California Constitution. In
every case, the government will only have reason to suspect
that you are in possession of the "illegal" firearm based upon
some information they received many months ago. It is just
as likely that you are no longer in possession of the "illegal"
firearm as it is that it is still in your possession; therefore,
without more, there is no probable cause to believe you are
currently violating the law. Since you may not be required to
answer any of the government's questions about whether you
are in possession of an "illegal" firearm, the government has
no way of finding out whether its suspicions are correct.
If you really want to have some fun, and burn up some of the
government agents' time (taking away time they might
otherwise use to try to trick other citizens of their firearms),
you may want to do the following:
When they identify themselves outside your door, slide a
Public Servant Questionnaire under the door to each of them,
and tell them you'd be happy to talk to them if they will
answer each of the questions set forth on the form. You may
get a copy of the Public Servant Questionnaire at http://www.GunTruths.com (click on the cartridge above "I
Believe In Self Defense" and then scroll down to the "Get
Involved" heading). If you do this, it is doubtful they will
continue to talk to you. Probably, they will have been told not
to waste their time on citizens who seem to understand their
rights and they will leave and go to the next name and
address on their list.
Assuming they do fill out the form completely, you may want
to then ask them whether they are armed with loaded
firearms. If they say yes, you should tell them that you will let
them into your house to talk with them only if they will return
without their firearms. Then you should also tell them that
you'd like to first obtain some witnesses to eyewitness the
meeting in your home, and further explain that you'd like to
have them sit in front of your pre-positioned video camera
and near your tape recorder. If they tell you that you don't
have the right to audiotape and videotape them, they will be
lying. Remember, these are your public servants. Then let
them come into your house, unarmed, to ask your permission
to answer some questions. Let them ask whatever questions
they choose. In response to each, simply say, "I choose not
to answer that question." Or you might ask them, in response
to every question they ask, whether you are required to
answer the question. Again, you'll have this all on audio tape
and videotape and have at least one witness. When they are
finished, politely show them the door.
Use your imagination.
Another Right We Have At Our Disposal That The
Government Fears
Under Article VI of the United States Constitution, and
Sections 15 and 16 of the Declaration of Rights in the
California Constitution, all defendants in criminal
prosecutions shall enjoy the right to a speedy trial, by an
impartial jury of twelve jurors. The AG does not want to be
faced with overcoming the foregoing hurdles, plus having to
convince all twelve jurors on a jury that you ought to go to jail
just because you were in possession of what just a few
months earlier had been perfectly legal to own. The AG fears
fully informed jurors who know that they have the power to
judge both the law and the facts, and who will be willing to
acquit you of the victimless crime of possessing an "illegal"
firearm that was formerly perfectly legal to own. You should
learn more about the Fully Informed Jury Association (FIJA),
which is on the Links page at The Lawyer's Second
Amendment Society, Inc. web site, http://www.thelsas.org.
The Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution is short, to
the point and written in English. The Fourth Amendment is
easy to understand. The Attorney General hopes you don't
understand any of your rights. Don't let them trick you. If the
first one hundred attempts at trickery fail, the government will
give up. Don't be fooled. Learn your rights and exercise
them!
Disclaimer: The foregoing is not legal advice but is for
informational purposes only. You should use your own
judgment or consult an attorney before deciding what to do.
****************************
The 2ndAmendmentNews Team
The way to protect your own rights is to protect the rights of
others. Our right to own and use firearms is under attack.
This list was created in a hurry due to the emergency
presented by anti-gun politicians and the media dancing in
the blood of those who died in the Colorado massacre.
We receive e-mail addresses from various sources that
represent the recipients as receptive to our timely, low-to-
moderate volume gun-rights-related alerts (generally no more
than weekly, never more than daily, depending on legislative
and other circumstances). Occasionally recipients turn out to
be not interested, and we remove them immediately with our
sincere apology for any inconvenience. If you wish to be
removed send an e mail to 2ndamendmentnews-
owner@onelist.com and include "unsubscribe".
If you know anyone who would appreciate these alerts,
please let us know and we'll enroll them on a trial basis.
Also, feel free to forward our alerts.
If you've received this as a forward and wish to subscribe
please send a reply to me at luz.clark@prodigy.net or
behanna@fast.net
Cordially Yours,
The 2ndAmendmentNews Team
2ndAmendmentNews is published by volunteer activists who
support the full original individual rights intent of the 2nd
Amendment and oppose any appeasement on gun rights.
The moderators include Chris Behanna, Weldon Clark (an
NRA director) and Steve Cicero.
------------------
will you stand with me in DC on 10-2-99?
http://www.myplanet.net/jeffhead/LibMarch