My goal is to have a legally stored handgun sitting in my passenger compartment, which could be recovered when bad stuff appears on the horizon. So, it is ammunition and handgun independently locked within their own enclosures. I have read elsewhere that the magazine can be construed as "handgun" and so storing a loaded magazine in a locked container would be illegal. Anyone know if this is true? Any suggestions as to easily unlocked containers?
Legal Car Storage of Handgun in California
- Thread starter Gary H
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EOD:
I have read the same, but I ran into a fellow selling a double box with a single lock. The container was to be mounted within the passenger compartment. He claimed that it was legal to carry the magazine in one compartment and the gun in the other. The common lock allowed for easy access, but allowed for separation of ammunition from the gun. I questioned him on the basis of to/from, but he said that full time storage was just fine. Maybe you could carry full time if you had a range, or FFL in the general direction of travel.
I don't think that an unloaded shotgun on the seat would go over in the SF area.
[Edited by Gary H on 12-16-2000 at 09:45 PM]
I have read the same, but I ran into a fellow selling a double box with a single lock. The container was to be mounted within the passenger compartment. He claimed that it was legal to carry the magazine in one compartment and the gun in the other. The common lock allowed for easy access, but allowed for separation of ammunition from the gun. I questioned him on the basis of to/from, but he said that full time storage was just fine. Maybe you could carry full time if you had a range, or FFL in the general direction of travel.
I don't think that an unloaded shotgun on the seat would go over in the SF area.
[Edited by Gary H on 12-16-2000 at 09:45 PM]
The thing about the ammo being near the firearm is only applicable when adding on penalties related to whether a loaded firearm was used in the commission of a crime. For your purposes, the common sense of "loaded" is adequate. However, I haven't seen any reason to believe that full-time carry in a vehicle - which would certainly be implied by some sort of bolted-in lockbox - is allowed under CA statutes.
Gorthaur:
This box can be moved to the house, with the base plate in the car. Having said all of this, it seems that if one is to carry in the car, then it had best not be detectable, because legal carry may not be possible. I guess that the shotgun in the back seat would at least be legal, but a bit difficult to use and not PC. A good life insurance policy is the only way out for a citizen of California.
This box can be moved to the house, with the base plate in the car. Having said all of this, it seems that if one is to carry in the car, then it had best not be detectable, because legal carry may not be possible. I guess that the shotgun in the back seat would at least be legal, but a bit difficult to use and not PC. A good life insurance policy is the only way out for a citizen of California.
Actually in Kalifornia, a shotgun in plain sight
would be perfectly legal..but not advisable...
No concealed carry...
A few shotgun shells in your pocket.....
A few indications of your hunting trip
and you would probably be ok.
believe it or not
Actually in Kalifornia, only the gang-bangers
can carry illegal weapons and get away with it..
5th amendment, an expensive lawyer, an all that..
Sad but true..
Only law abiding citizens suffer from the current
gun laws..
Sad but true..
would be perfectly legal..but not advisable...
No concealed carry...
A few shotgun shells in your pocket.....
A few indications of your hunting trip
and you would probably be ok.
believe it or not
Actually in Kalifornia, only the gang-bangers
can carry illegal weapons and get away with it..
5th amendment, an expensive lawyer, an all that..
Sad but true..
Only law abiding citizens suffer from the current
gun laws..
Sad but true..
We just had one of our local Deputy's go over this at our last club meeting (He is a member). Can only carry gun in car without a CCW while traveling to or from a shooting range and or hunting. Then the Ammo and Gun must be seperate. If ammo is in the clip, it is considered in the gun. There are two exceptions to this law.... Farmers while on their own land (they are exempt for CCW laws, can carry concealed) and forgot the other.
Mr. RickD is right. GaryH, you cannot do what you want to do legally, so, if you insist on having a loaded weapon available to you then you must adopt a secure bolted down locked steel box that you have sworn on your mother's grave that you will not allow to be searched, and then why don't you have the gun locked inside the locked box and the ammunition separate and then if "bad stuff appears on the horizon" (your terms) you can assemble the two components. Oh, and do not put ammo or magazines in glove compartments or consoles, if they are separate then put them in something like a "dummy" Daytimer or something equally inconspicuous that you don't consent to search. You need to make your own decisions on gray areas like this. Do not take any of my comments to mean that you should do one or the other. I know I'm comfortable with my own solutions.