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Poodleshooter

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Does anyone know of a reference where lead can be computed for targets at a certain speed, angle,and range given a certain load?
Also, how does anyone learn to shoot steel loads when the lead distances on BB steel are so different from the #7.5 and smaller lead loads that we're allowed to shoot at trap and skeet ranges?
Last waterfowl season I was very frustrated with the leads on passing geese, vs my practice at the trap and skeet ranges....
 
Well...

I don't know if such a chart exists. Even if it does, I doubt that it would be of much use due to variables in trajectory, target speed, shot speed, gun swing, etc.

I shoot a *lot* of clays each year, and can tell you that quality practice at sporting clays, FITASC and 5 stand definitely will improve your wingshooting. Advice that I give to students trying to figure out bird shooting is "butt - beak - bang", within effective killing ranges. Passing geese can be dropped decisively out to 45 yards with steel BB, BBB and T shot, but beyond that can really push the envelope.

I suggest that you not try to measure the precise lead, as that will cause you to look at the front bead instead of the bird. Stare closely at the eye or beak of the goose, and let your hands swing the gun through, touching off the shot as you pass completely through the target. The faster that you move the gun, the slower the apparent speed of the target will become, beit clay or fowl.

Good luck,

Bud
 
Bud nailed it.SO many variables,so few concretes.

The way I learned on geese was to shoot geese. If all else fails, just try to shoot in front of them.
 
Remington has a little brochure on leads for trap shooting. I suggest contact Remington on how to obtain one.

Michael
 
I think Bud did a better job than the Remington brochure.

Specially since Poodle doin allright at trap, just not on critters.

Me agree with Dave.

Sam
 
Well I have always found that measuring causes misses. If you have to think about the proper lead you will miss.

Buzz Fawcett, who teaches wingshooting for people who shoot SXS has a motto:

"Cogito ergo non fiero"

Which means "I think therefore I miss"

In my pitiful career at competition Sporting Clays I often hit the first pair of birds on a stand only to finally miss the last pair. Why? Because I started to think too much:(

Try shooting Skeet with steel loads if you are having problems with leads. Steel does have different characteristics and the best way to become proficient is to shoot more.
 
The thing is, I shoot instinctively on both (and suck when I don't I might add!) It just doesn't work well on high overhead passing geese. (they did pass the bead/head test, so I know I wasn't skybusting). The only geese I flattened were those I jump shot, when they were taking low departing trajectories. I guess I just need to take some time at the #8 station :o I'd just like to get some idea of the difference between my lead on a high tower bird at #8 using lead#8 trap load's and an overhead Canada using 3"mag steel #1's. I have a feeling that I put some pellets into goose butts last year, and I'm not too happy about it. :(
 
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