Sponge14 said:I am just starting to learn about NFA and Class 3 weapons and the laws around them... What is meant by Law Enforcement demo units? What are the requirements to purchase these guns? Is this something a civilian can do? ....
That's kind of what I thought too, I was thinking, what was stopping me from becoming a dealer? I really wish they would repeal this ridiculous law...
In order to obtain a LE demo, you need to prove a reason as far as I know, beyond being a dealer first. The letter stating that a LE agency wants to test/evaluate this firearm is simple enough.
I wish we could go back to pre-86 myself, but it isnt going to happen soon.
As far as becoming a dealer, go get your FFL, then get your SOT, its simple and straight forward. You can do it from your home if your local authority does not prohibit a home based retail business.
I can purchase the rifle and keep it forever?
The FFL renewal is every three years, but the Special Occupational Tax is each year.Willie LowmanNo. Till you stop paying each year to keep your FFL.Quote:
I can purchase the rifle and keep it forever?
Sponge14 said:So if I get the chief of police of an agency to say that they want to demo a rifle that I purchase, I can purchase the rifle and keep it forever?
There's nothing stopping me from getting my FFL, other than the fact that I don't need it for anything other than the possibility of purchasing a demo rifle (other than maybe doing some transfers here and there...)
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Beyond getting an FFL, you must be doing business, meaning doing transfers or selling firearms to have a FFL.Originally Posted by Sponge14
So if I get the chief of police of an agency to say that they want to demo a rifle that I purchase, I can purchase the rifle and keep it forever?
There's nothing stopping me from getting my FFL, other than the fact that I don't need it for anything other than the possibility of purchasing a demo rifle (other than maybe doing some transfers here and there...)
If you are obtaining an FFL just to aquire firearms, it is doubtful if you will get your FFL, and also doubtful if you will keep said FFL. Even less though when dealing with SOT firearms.
If you want to sell or transfer firearms as a business to make a few bucks or more, thats what an FFL is for. You can purchase a firearm with your FFL for yourself, and transfer it to yourself. I would advise you to be careful though if you are mainly going to get an FFL just for your own purchases.
dogtown tom said:Don't forget the wrath that will come down when ATF finds out the only NFA transactions you have done with your SOT are to yourself.......its called tax evasion.
Don't forget the wrath that will come down when ATF finds out the only NFA transactions you have done with your SOT are to yourself.......its called tax evasion.
How is this tax evasion? Is it because I would not have to pay the $200 stamp?
It's becoming clear that LE demo units are not the best way to get my hands on the rifles I can only dream of....
The M16 is a good example but what if someone was dead set on getting a FA G36? There are no transferable FA G36. What about a MAG-58? A postie MAG is about $10,000 and the last time I saw a transferable one it was $75,000
Just sayin...
CHAPTER 15. PENALTIES AND SANCTIONS
Section 15.1 NFA.
15.1.1 Criminal. The acts prohibited by the NFA and prosecutable as Federal offenses are listed in 26
U.S.C. 5861(a) through (l). As provided by 26 U.S.C. 5871, any person who commits an offense shall,
upon conviction, be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 10 years or fined. Although the fine
specified in the statute is an amount not exceeding $10,000, an amendment to Federal law provides for a fine of not more than $250,000 in the case of an individual or $500,000 in the case of an organization.224
15.1.2 Forfeiture. Any firearm involved in any violation of the NFA is subject to seizure and
forfeiture.225