Law Enforcement Group Launches Drive to Fire Reno

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http://chblue.com/article2.asp?ID=57

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(CNSNews.com) - The Law Enforcement Alliance of America, a Washington-based group of over 65,000 members that calls itself a "nonprofit, nonpartisan coalition of law enforcement professionals, crime victims and
concerned citizens united for justice," have begun a petition drive designed to
have Janet Reno "fired" as attorney General of the United States.

The petition reads in part, "Attorney General Janet Reno should be immediately
removed from office for malfeasance and abuse of power. Janet Reno's infamous 5:00 am raid in the Elian Gonzalez case transcends the issues of
custody, revealing a US government willing to invade private homes at gunpoint in violation of constitutional protections."

"Janet Reno's America", according to the petition, "is one where an American
President and Vice President are allowed to obstruct justice with the complicity
of the top law enforcement officer in the land."
 
Personally, I think that firing her is way too lenient.

I like what they did to that murderous priest in The Mummy. Cut her lying tongue off and then bury her alive in an airtight sarcophagus with a bucket of flesh eating beetles (poor things would probably starve!).
And her boss too!! :mad:
 
Thanks, I've voted but the root of the problem isn't her. I look at her as the underling who does what she's told. We must also vote the criminals out of office and petition for their prosecution for crimes against the American people. In this new and improved "touchy-feely", "I voted for him because he looks like JFK","we've gotta have a law" world, I wonder. A good house cleaning is needed.
 
The petition is good, especialy since it is sponsored by LEAA.
To make it even more effective, go to www.gunowners.org and use their aparatus to send some letters to your Senators and Congresmen. Don't use the pre-written letters, compose your own. Mention Reno's corruption and make a general statement against gun control.
Take the option to print the letter and send it snail-mail to your reps. Politicos actualy read physical letters and take them more seriously than E-mail. But E-mail as well. Aides go through the E-mails and give the Senator a summary of the people's opinions on mentioned issues. So more pro-gun e-mails, the better.
A few thousand TFLers sending physical letters condeming Reno and supporting the Second Amendment would help erode Senate and Congressional commitment to Gun control and Janet Reno.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
 
The LEAA is looking better every day. It's reassuring that there's at least one police group that isn't an administration suck -up.

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Just when I was beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel, I realized it was a freight train.
 
I am afraid to sign it and get on her **** list. I don't want to be found dead one day.

(sorta tongue in cheek....sorta)
 
I have to post a contrary opinion. I believe the Attorney General did exactly what should have been done when it became apparent that the Miami hostage takers were not negotiating in good faith and were prepared to string out their obstruction of the law until doomsday.

The government did NOT invade that home in violation of Constitution protections. The had a warrant. All of the political advantage takers who started yapping the minute the raid was over are backing down some, now that they see they have no chance of getting anywhere with Congressional hearings, or with the people, a majority of whom support the hostage rescue action.

No matter what anyone may think of her other actions, she was 100% correct on this one.
 
David Scott:

While I agree with the ends, it doesn't justify the means. Read the pieces by LIBERAL scholars Tribe and Dershowitz below. Reno conducted a unilateral and improper action. Yes, the Miami family are probably idiots, and Castro is a dirtbag. This doesn't justify the action.
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Justice Taken Too Far

By LAURENCE H. TRIBE

Some are wildly comparing the armed seizure of Elián González to the roundup of innocents by the Gestapo. Others think Attorney General Janet Reno showed admirable patience in dealing with a group of zealots using the boy as a pawn in its war with Fidel Castro. But the partisan squabbling over these caricatured views threatens to obscure a vital question: Where did the attorney general derive thelegal authority to invade that Miami home in order to seize the child?

The fact is, even on the assumption (which I share) that under applicable legal and moral principles Elián should ultimately be
reunited with his father, the government's actions appear to have violated a basic principle of our society, a principle whose
preservation lies at the core of ordered liberty under the rule of law. Under the Constitution, it is axiomatic that the executive branch has no unilateral authority to enter people's homes forcibly to remove innocent individuals without taking the time to seek a warrant or other order from a judge or magistrate (absent the most extraordinary need to act). Not only the Fourth Amendment but also well-established constitutional principles of family privacy require that the disinterested judiciary test the correctness of the executive branch's claimed right to enter and seize.

Although a federal court had ordered that Elián not be removed from the country pending a determination of his asylum petition, and although a court had ruled that the Immigration and Naturalization Service could exercise custody and control of Elián for the time being, no judge or neutral magistrate had issued the type of warrant or other authority needed for the executive branch to break into the home to seize the child. The agency had no more right to do so than any parent who has been awarded custody would have a right to break and enter for such a purpose. Indeed, the I.N.S. had not even secured a judicial order, as opposed to a judicially unreviewed administrative one, compelling the Miami relatives to turn Elián over.

The Justice Department points out that the agents who stormed the Miami home were armed not only with guns but with a search
warrant. But it was not a warrant to seize the child. Elián was not lost, and it is a semantic sleight of hand to compare his forcible removal to the seizure of evidence, which is what a search warrant is for.

To be sure, our courts have allowed immigration officials to obtain area-wide warrants to search workplaces for illegal aliens, and Congress has by statute empowered immigration officials to search, interrogate and arrest people without warrants in order toprevent unlawful entry into the country. But no one suspects that Elián is here illegally. In fact, it's hard to see any significant immigration-related or other federal interest in whether Elián was reunited with his father now or after asylum is denied (if that is the outcome). And, should asylum be granted, Elián's father might still be granted custody and could then take the boy to Cuba with him if he so chose; asylum only means permission to stay in the United States and is not a requirement to
stay.

Either way, Ms. Reno's decision to take the law as well as the child into her own hands seems worse than a political blunder. Even if well intended, her decision strikes at the heart of constitutional government and shakes the safeguards of liberty.

---- Laurence H. Tribe is a professor of constitutional law atHarvard.


------------------------------(from The Los Angeles Times, Tuesday April 25, 2000. Home Edition, Metro-Part B, Page 9-Op Ed /Opinion Piece )

by Alan Dershowitz

The family portrait of a smiling Elian reunited with his father is the
current news. But the enduring precedent is reflected by the photograph of an
armed government agent breaking into the home of American citizens. Although
the agents had something denominated a ‘search‘ warrant, this warrant was not
based on any court order issued after a full adversarial hearing. Instead, it
was based on an after-hours, ex parte application that claimed that Elian was
being ‘concealed‘ and ‘unlawfully‘ restrained, and that Elian was himself the
subject of an INS administrative warrant of arrest. This is not the way
American law enforcement should work.

The appropriate manner by which Elian should have been reunited with his
father was a government request for a court order, following an adversarial
hearing and determination that the Miami relatives were in contempt of court.
If the relatives were then unwilling to obey the court order and turn Elian
over, law enforcement authorities would have had the lawful power to arrest
these relatives and remove him from the home.

Why then did the Justice Department and the INS not seek a court order? The
answer is they had earlier sought such an order from the 11th Circuit Court
of Appeals, which had denied it as part of the opinion ordering Elian to
remain in the United States. They were afraid that if they sought such an
order from a federal district court, it too would have denied it. So instead
of going to court, the government simply seized the child based on an
uncontested and entirely inappropriate search warrant, which courts routinely
issue.

Had there been an adversarial hearing, the Miami relatives would undoubtedly
have argued that transferring the child to his father would essentially moot
the case now pending before the 11th Circuit, since Elian, now under the
influence of his father, will almost certainly withdraw his application for
asylum. The father’s lawyer will now argue that since the 11th Circuit
apparently gave some credence to the asylum application of a 6-year-old
child, it has no choice but to give equal credence to his withdrawal of that
application.

For whatever reason the government chose not to seek a court order following
an adversarial hearing, its actions confirm a dangerous precedent: that the
executive branch of the government has the authority to break into a
citizen’s home in a contested dispute without giving that citizen the
opportunity first to present his side to a court for resolution of the
dispute.

This dangerous precedent has long permitted the INS and its predecessors to
break into the homes of aliens, to raid factories of citizens who employ
aliens and to act in other high-handed ways without prior court approval.
Civil libertarians recall with horror the Palmer raids in which immigration
officials rounded up thousands of Italian, Irish and Jewish ‘radicals‘ during
and following World War I. This practice has continued unabated and manifests
itself today in the frequent raids conducted by immigration officials in
Southern California, Texas and Florida. When the objects of these raids are
Mexican workers, civil libertarians express appropriate outrage, because they
disagree with both the means and the ends of such raids. But when the object
of such a raid is the reunion of a Cuban father and his son, many liberals
and civil libertarians remain suspiciously silent or even supportive of
lawless government action, because in this case they agree with the end and
believe that a good end justifies bad means.

This situational approach to civil liberties considerably weakens the
credibility of those who claim to believe in due process. People who support
procedural safeguards only in cases where they agree with the substantive
rights at issue, are legitimately subject to accusations of hypocrisy. Our
system of checks and balances must be applied vigorously even in cases in
which the executive is seeking to achieve a desirable end. The most important
check on the excesses of the executive branch is judicial review, as has been
acknowledged since the foundational Supreme Court decision in Marbury vs.
Madison. Although that case involved a judicial check on unconstitutional
action of the president, the principle applies to any case where the
executive seeks to act in violation of the rule of law.

In the Elian Gonzalez case, the executive had a traditional legal option
available to it, which it could have pursued weeks ago. It could have asked a
court to order the Miami family to turn the child over to his father.
Instead, the Justice Department, a part of the executive branch, issued its
own order and imposed its own deadlines. Under American law, no citizen has
an obligation to obey the executive, unless its order is lawful and backed by
judicial authority. By enforcing its own order, without the judicial
imprimatur of a court mandate, the Justice Department has reinforced a
precedent that endangers the rights of all American citizens.
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note: Dershowitz has volunteered to testify in Congress as to the raid's illegality

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Tuesday, April 25, 2000, NY Daily News

Forced Entry Was Bad Tactic

by Sidney Zion

"The only thing Janet Reno should have
ruled out was the use of force."

This statement about Reno's Easter morning
seizure of little Elian Gonzalez does not come
from the Little Havana crowd, or from some
starry-eyed leftist, or a Republican running
for the Senate in New York.

It is the considered view of Peter Malkin, who for
27 years was
operations chief of the Israeli Mossad and,
incidentally, the
man who caught Adolf Eichmann by the throat on a
dark street
in Buenos Aires.

I consulted Malkin, whom I have known for 20 years,
because I
needed an expert without a political ax to grind.
He has dual
Israeli-American citizenship, but the last thing on
his mind is
how the Elian Gonzalez case will spin in the polls.

"No guns should have been used, under any
circumstance," said
Malkin ? who had no gun when he captured Eichmann.

"Suppose there were guns in the house?" I asked.
"Would you put
the federal agents at risk?"

"Agents are supposed to take risks," he answered.
"Where is it
written that they must be risk-free? It's an insult
to them to
demand that, they're in business for it.

"But the real risk they faced was that aggressive
action would
result in violence," Malkin went on. "If there were
guns in the
house, the last thing they should have done was
come in with
guns."

Explain, I prodded.

And indeed he did. "It could have meant a shootout,
where
anything could have happened, including the death
of the boy
they were saving."

What was the alternative? Attorney General Janet
Reno said
she had exhausted all other means to deliver Elian
to his father.

"She exhausted no alternatives," Malkin said. "I am
not talking
about legal alternatives. I think she had the legal
right to take
the child, and I believe the child belongs with his
father."

So? "Every other alternative was open," Malkin
proclaimed.
"That is, intelligence and surprise and deception."

For five months, he explained, the Justice
Department had Elian
at home in the U.S. where it wanted him. It could
have known
everything about the uncle's family and its
possible use of guns
should the feds show up at their front door.

"There are 50 different ways to know what's going
on in a house
like that," he said, "Everything from sending in a
Con Ed man to
check out the place to electronic and video
eavesdropping."

All of which, he said, were unnecessary, given the
family's
history. "These people were ideological enemies of
Castro; they
were not terrorists. But if our government thought
they were,
why did they turn the boy over to them?"

But it worked, I said to Malkin. The kid is with
his daddy and
appears happy, so what are you worried about?

"Did it work?" he asked. "That picture of our guy
with his M-5
at the head of the man who saved Elian in the
waters, and Elian
in total fear, you say it worked?

"I say it made America look like Castro, and in
every secret
service organization in the world it made us look
stupid. No
other democracy had done it this way, and I have to
tell you, I'm
ashamed."

I didn't feel too good either, looking at the photo
that will stick
in our retinas long after Elian Gonzalez becomes a
memory.

"And consider this," Malkin said. "How can we trust
Bill Clinton
to negotiate a Middle East peace if he couldn't
take a kid home
free without force?"

Reno Offers No Regrets (04/25/2000)
 
The opinions of a couple of lawyers will not sway mine. A lawyer's job is to make out a case to support one side of an issue. Truth and justice are only used if they support that side of the case. You can find a lawyer to argue either side of anything and make it sound good.

The same people who, before the rescue, were criticizing the Attorney General for being indecisive are now blasting her for taking decisive action. Just as the Miami hostage takers cared more about getting over on Castro than they ever did about the child, those criticizing the Attorney General are more concerned with doing down political enemies than with what's right.

If the actions in question were so clearly illegal, why are the Republicans backing off from their demand for Congressional hearings? Orrin Hatch said in the paper yesterday that they hearings may never happen.

I'll tell you why they're backing off. They realize that they have a shaky case at best, and the last time they tried to set the dogs on the Administration despite a Rube Goldberg case, they suffered badly at the bar of public opinion. Even in an election year, when they are really fishing for material to smear the opposing party, they know this idea's a loser.

As for the ex-Mossad officer, I can't match his credentials but I still think he's wrong. The officers could not have gone in broad daylight, armed or not. The "human chain" stood ready to provoke the use of force so they could look like victims on the six o'clock news. Given the relative liberality of CCW laws in Florida, coupled with the number of illegally carried firearms in a city like Miami, it was likely that there would be at least one person in the "human chain" carrying and angry enough to open fire. My greatest fear in this case has always been that someone would decide Elian was "better dead than red" and kill him rather than see him go back to Cuba.

The idea that the officers should have gone unarmed because "risk is part of their job" is pure crap. Risk may be part of their job, but stupid and unnecessary risk is not. And the reason your Mossad guy didn't need a gun to take Eichmann is that Eichmann was one wrinkled old man against a young and physically fit team of Israeli agents.

Lawyers' waffling aside, Elian Gonzales was and is an illegal alien, and as such the INS has jurisidction. Lazaro Gonzales and company have disregarded all administrative attempts to recover the child, and Lazaro himself declared that they would have to take Elian by force. They strung out the dialogue as long as they could, and action was taken when it became certain that they were not negotiating in good faith and would never agree to any deals.

A six year old child is not legally competent; if they were, the kid who shot his classmate in Michigan would be prosecuted. Elian Gonzales cannot legally petition for asylum, despite the concession the court granted out of fear that the Cubano protesters would shut Miami down. I don't think that court's decision would hold up under judicial review.

I's been a principle of common law, longer than our country has existed, that a parent speaks for a minor child. No one has been able to argue that Juan Miguel Gonzales is not a fit parent, therefore he and he alone can speak for his son. The only real objection anyone can raise to the return of father and son to their homeland is that Cuba is a Communist country. Hey, I think the Castro regime sucks, too, but that's Cuba's issue to resolve. They will be free when they do what we did in 1776 and again in 1814.

It would be a grave mistake to set a legal precedent that a child can be taken away from its parents because of the parent's politics. If they can take kids away from Communists, why couldn't they takes kids away from abortion protesters, Libertarians or even people who oppose mandatory gun registration?
 
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