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What Are You Going to Do about Gun Violence?
Keep Up the Pressure: Our Leaders Need to Do More than Offer Condolences

We Can Do Something about Gun Violence.
See Brady in the News.



Dear ****,

I'm charged up after my appearance with Jim on CBS's Face the Nation Sunday morning. And I'm even more excited that so many of you have taken action in the wake of last week's tragic shootings at Virginia Tech.

More than 50,000 calls and emails have been made to our elected leaders to ask them "What are YOU going to do about gun violence," including thousands to President Bush, Speaker Pelosi, and Majority Leader Reid.

This pressure is absolutely critical if we don't want our leaders to retreat and do nothing after offering condolences.

So thank you! But we need to keep that momentum going. Please support our efforts today.

Why do we have to keep the pressure on? Because every day in America, 32 people are murdered by guns. The same number that was killed last Monday.

A supporter last week had the great idea of asking her friends to donate $32 to the Brady Campaign. So we are asking you to do the same now. Please give $32 today.

Despite the daily toll of gun deaths, Congress has done nothing. And to help your Brady Campaign keep the heat on Congress, we are asking you for your financial support right now.

As a nation, we can do better. And to keep the dialogue going and the momentum building to find a solution, please keep asking the question "What are YOU going to do about gun violence in America?"


Sincerely,

Sarah Brady, Chair
Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

I know what *I'M* going to do about gun violence in America...buy more guns and shoot back!
 
I listened to Mz. Brady's comments on Face the Nation and, truthfully, she sounded as if she wasn't altogether there. Almost like someone had awakened her from a nap 5 minutes before the interview.
 
They say 32 deaths a day but it seems that is more of a convienient statistic than truth.

Oh and how many violent crimes that end in death are comitted daily without the use of firearms?
 
truthfully, she sounded as if she wasn't altogether there.

Can't that generally be said about most of the extreme anti's? They're not all together there even after two pots of french-roast and a brisk jog. As one of my favorite comedians, Ron White, once put it... "Folks, you can't fix stupid!"
 
I'm going to carry more often that is for sure. I was listening to a talk radio show where an ex-Israeli special forces was talking about what can be done to avoid or decrease the number of deaths in schools. He seems to be getting more contracts for training LE and schools. The good news is that he is definitely not anti-gun.
 
Here's today's:

A Call to Action from Paul Helmke
President, Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence and the
Brady Campaign with its network of Million Mom March Chapters


Dear *****,

Following are excerpts taken from a very moving speech given by Paul Helmke at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday. Please read Paul's remarks and follow the links to view more and help spread the word.


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View highlights from Paul's speech at the National Press Club.
Email this speech to your Congressional delegation.

There were 32 people murdered at Virginia Tech.

That number, in and of itself, was not extraordinary. Every day in our country, on average, about 32 people are murdered with guns. When you add suicides and unintentional shootings, the death toll from guns in America each day is about 80 people. And for every death, there are another two or three seriously injured.

The gun epidemic is our monthly 9/11, our weekly Katrina, a continuing Iraq war on our streets and in our schools. It is our daily Virginia Tech. Yet, we don’t focus on this threat until we get a Virginia Tech.

And then we allow our political leaders to slowly and deliberately delay, until we are all busy with other challenges. And then our leaders let us down, content that we’re no longer paying attention.

To say that we are sorry that these shootings happened is not enough. We should be ashamed all of us should be ashamed that we have allowed this to happen. We must all say to the victims at Virginia Tech and their families, and to the families of gun violence victims every day: we have failed you. All of us. We can do better.

What can we do about gun violence?

There are many things we can do to prevent gun violence. Here are three policy proposals:

1. We must comprehensively and effectively apply the Brady background check system, so no one who we want to prohibit from buying guns can legally buy one.
Effective background checks would have stopped the Virginia Tech killer from buying these guns.

2. We must reduce access to weaponry that is not for sport and not for self-defense.
Had Congress and the President not allowed the assault weapon ban to expire, the killer may not have been able to obtain the high capacity magazines he used in his assault.

3. We must give our police and federal law enforcement the tools and resources they need to fight gun crimes, including illegal gun trafficking and corrupt gun dealers.
New technologies, such as microstamping and other ballistic identification systems, might have allowed authorities to identify the Virginia Tech shooter earlier, before his second, most deadly, rampage.
Gun violence prevention should not be controversial. The overwhelming majority of Americans believe that gun violence is a huge problem. And most Americans believe that we should have tougher gun laws. Most Americans, including most gun owners, support the policy proposals I've suggested.

We intend to hold our political leaders accountable if they fail to take action, Democrats and Republicans alike.

There are other things that we, at the Brady Center and the Brady Campaign with our Million Mom March Chapters, are going to do. To start, we need a national conversation about our gun problem. We need to ask elected officials and each other: what are you going to do about it?

All Americans have the responsibility to join this national conversation, and become part of the solution to the gun violence problem.


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You can help build the national dialogue by emailing your Congressional delegation a link to Paul's speech — ask them "What are YOU going to do about gun violence?" and let them know that doing nothing is not an option.

And look for email alerts from us about specific gun violence prevention legislation that will be coming before Congress. More to come . . .

Sincerely,

Sarah Brady, Chair
 
Here's some more

I just know y'all can't get enough of this wonderful stuff! :) This in today:

Still Marching Strong Seven Years Later while Congress Fails to Act
Remembering Mother's Day and the Million Mom March Chapters

Dear *****,

Seven years have passed since hundreds of thousands of us gathered on the National Mall in Washington D.C. — and in local communities — to demand that something be done about gun violence.

What has happened since we marched in 2000? More than 200,000 people have died from guns and another 450,000 have been seriously injured.

And yet, Congress has done nothing to address the daily toll of gun deaths and injuries in America.

Even as our nation is still reeling about the deaths of 32 students and teachers at Virginia Tech, our leaders are silent. They are hoping we forget. Move on. Don't demand action.

But we don't forget: we continue to ask the President, Congress, our local leaders, and our neighbors: "What are YOU going to do about gun violence?"

One thing you can do about gun violence is to get involved locally. What started as one of the largest marches on Washington is now a national network of Million Mom March Chapters around the U.S. that work locally, yet stand together, in the fight against gun violence. Click here contact your local Chapter. You can also look up the events from coast to coast that Chapters are participating in this weekend.

Also this week, you can pick up a copy of the latest Ladies' Home Journal magazine (with Dr. Phil on the cover). The issue features a strong and in-depth look at the illegal gun trafficking problem in America, featuring the story of a North Carolina mother who lost her husband to someone who shouldn't have had a gun.

And we promise to keep working with our Congressional allies to move strong gun laws forward. Whether it is strengthening the Brady background check system, keeping guns out of terrorists hands, or cracking down on corrupt gun dealers, we are aggressively fighting to make our communities safer.

Jim and I wish you a Happy Mother's Day — and thank all of you who continue to fight this fight, through your Million Mom March Chapter, your e-activism, or your donations. Working together, we can prevent gun violence in America.

Sincerely,

Sarah Brady, Chair
 
only 32.. while each is tragic if that is true if it is innocent people being killed,

I bet more people are killed by or die from the following each day:

Car wrecks
Lifestyle choices
Abortion
Old age
Cancer
Diabetes
etcetera

but guns are bad.. MMMMM-KAY. :rolleyes:

PS

Heya WeedWacker - I'm up the grade from you in the Palouse !
 
If I remember correctly, backyard pool drownings are a much bigger killer of kids than school shootings. At the college level, DUI-related deaths are an order or magnitude more likely to kill a kid.

Also, unlike a country like Australia, we have enough homicides (and a high enough rate as well) that a shooting like this doesn't even effect our stats. It takes something on a 9/11 scale to do that. Which is why when you look at murder stats over the last few years, for 2001 it always notes that the numbers exclude 9/11...and if you look at stats for Australia, in 1996 they will generally omit the Port Arthur shooting.

If you're talking about crime stats for a city, or possibly a state, it's a little more significant. But on a national scale, statistically speaking, such shootings may as well not have happened.
 
My wife was just telling me that on a forum she visits, one of the posters had to get rid of a trampoline, seems enough kids have been injured or killed by falling on or off a trampoline that insurance companies have really put up rates for those people... So it sounds like the Brady Bunch should be championing another cause.. trampoline control for their Kangaroo court!
 
The 200,000 statistic is misleading (what else is new?)
If we add up murder & non-negligent manslaughter the numbers look like this;
2000 15,586
2001 16,037
2002 16,229
2003 16,528
2004 16,148
2005 16,692
Total 97,220 (FBI: Crime in the U.S. 2005)
Est 2006 16203
Est Total 113,423

The Brady bunch insists on lumping in Suicides to inflate the figures.

As to how firearms deaths relate in terms of the other causes of death in the U.S., it ranks 17th.


1 Diseases of heart ........................... 652,486 27.2%
2 Malignant neoplasms (Cancer)................. 553,888 23.1%
3 Cerebrovascular diseases (Stroke)............ 150,074 6.3%
4 Chronic lower respiratory diseases .......... 121,987 5.1%
5 Accidents (unintentional injuries) .......... 112,012 4.7%
6 Diabetes mellitus ............................ 73,138 3.1%
7 Alzheimer's disease .......................... 65,965 2.8%
8 Influenza and pneumonia ...................... 59,664 2.5%
9 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and
--nephrosis (Kidney Disease) ................... 42,480 1.8%
10 Septicemia .................................. 33,373 1.4%
11 Intentional self-harm (suicide) ............. 32,439 1.4%
12 Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis.......... 27,013 1.1%
13 Essential (primary) hypertension and
--hypertensive renal disease ................... 23,076 1.0%
14 Parkinson's disease ......................... 17,989 0.8%
15 Assault (homicide) .......................... 17,357 0.7%
... All other causes (residual)................ 414,674 17.3%

Note: Assault/Homicide includes all forms. Approximately 32% are non-firearms related deaths.
 
My cousins ex-wife (thank God the school boy crush finally wore off) came to our Thanksgiving a couple years ago. She was what I call people like her "a damn hippie" LOL. I was saying I can't wait for deer season. Now this woman was a vegetarian, anti-hunter, anti-gun, anti-anything I love LOL. Anyway, she told me that all guns should be destroyed because they cause "so much death" and told me that by owning guns I support the killing of innocent children. Man I started to boil. But I walked away and went to the computer in the other room and went to the DOT website. When I came back with the number of adults, plus the number of children killed in car crashes every day (it was in the thousands) we really started going at it. But I am a great debater, mainly because I back up my statements with facts and reason instead of politically correct BS that I see on the T.V. By the end, she was in tears and I was gloating pretty bad LOL. I love putting those gun grabbers in there place. She was screaming that guns are good for nothing but killing people. I told her "If I laid a gun right here, unloaded, and gave it a command, '"Go kill someone"', what do you think would happen?". She answered "Nothing". I said "Well then how do guns kill people?". She started to say something, but I cut her off and said "Guns can't kill anyone, it takes a human brain for a gun to kill someone.". It was great. She knew she was wrong. Just too stubborn to admit it.
 
They say 32 deaths a day but it seems that is more of a convienient statistic than truth.

As far as I know that staistic is zero. Brady claims 32 a days are "killed by guns". I've not heard of one single instance in which a gun, in and of itself, has killed anybody. Have you?

I've heard of people killing people with guns. But guns just don't get up walk down the street, rob a liquor store or kill somebody.

I think that is the fundamental difference between the way pro-gun gun owners (note I say pro-gun gun owners because there are gun owners who aren't pro-gun) think and the way the rest of the people think. Guns don't kill people, people kill people really says a lot, and casts lights on two very different philosophies.
 
Here's more

They're really on a tear, dancing in the blood of the VT victims:
One Month after the Virginia Tech Tragedy and We're Still Asking Our Officials:
"What Are YOU Going to Do about Gun Violence?"
Dear *****,


What are YOU going to do about gun violence?
Forward this cartoon to your friends
Today marks the one-month anniversary since the tragedy at Virginia Tech.

On that day, 33 people were killed by guns, including the shooter, and since that day, approximately 2,430 more Americans have been killed with guns. And for every death, there are another two or three seriously injured.

The gun epidemic is our monthly 9/11, our weekly Katrina, a continuing Iraq war on our streets and in our schools. It is our daily Virginia Tech. Yet, we don’t focus on this threat until we get a Virginia Tech.

And then our political leaders deliberately delay, hoping that we will stop caring. But we must send them the message that we are paying attention . . . that we don't want tragedy after tragedy to happen while they do nothing.

Act now: Elected officials continue to ignore our gun violence epidemic. It's time for them to answer one question: "What are YOU going to do about gun violence?"

We're waging a campaign to ask our nation's leaders — the President, the Congress, presidential candidates, state officials, and local governments — "What are YOU going to do about it?"

Here's What You Can Do about It:
Make a $32 donation today
E-mail the President and Congressional leaders
Ask the presidential candidates to take a stand
Get involved locally: contact your local Million Mom March Chapter
Get your local religious community involved
Sign our petition
View, and forward to Congress, Paul Helmke's Call to Action
Thanks for doing something about gun violence today.


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I've not heard of one single instance in which a gun, in and of itself, has killed anybody. Have you?

Oh no! The PC crap from the liber arts college is starting to rub off on me! :eek: I need to go target shoot quick before it gets worse!!!

But back to my original point. The number of people killed but a slug leaving a barrel of a firearm being portrayed by the statistic of 32 deaths a day is a little unrealistic, even if it were on average. Purposeful killings of a person other than the one holding the gun... that I have no idea how many per day. She probably took her "number of deaths per year" figure and divided it.
 
I love when you guys get all riled up ands start quoting meaningless stats and mouthing platitudes over the same tired old screeching from the slowing sinking Brady Brunch...

But hey btw, whats wrong with this:

We must comprehensively and effectively apply the Brady background check system, so no one who we want to prohibit from buying guns can legally buy one.

WildjustcuriousAlaska
 
But hey btw, whats wrong with this:


Quote:
We must comprehensively and effectively apply the Brady background check system, so no one who we want to prohibit from buying guns can legally buy one.

Nothing. Nothing at all is wrong with that. I believe I heard a statement that the VA Tech shooter's mental hospital stay should have precluded him from buying a gun but those kind of records don't make it into the background check system simply because of lack of funding. Give your $32 to upgrade the background check system if you really want to do something productive with it.
 
I mean that we can agree that if there is a better way to run a background check system to keep guns out of the hands of criminals or people who would be inclined to abuse them, then yes.
 
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