laser grips

I think for your EDC as long as you have it sighted at a reasonable range they're good. They're not for target shooting though and shouldn't take the place of being able to fire the same weapon with then plain sights.
 
I can vouch that crimson trace is the industry leader and makes arguably the best lasers. Whether it's right for you it something you need to decide. I have them on a few of my handguns and enjoy the flexibility they prove. You never know what situation you are going to be in so need to be prepared.
 
I have never been a fan of lasers for anything but training to see how much movement you have while pulling the trigger. Or to verify your aim in instinct shooting.
I personally would never trust my life to circuits, and batteries.
I have never had any experience with Crimson Trace until yesterday. I was trying a friend's LCP with the CT laser mounted underneath. He doesn't get real technical with things, and did not have the owner's manual with him, so possibly one of the problems I was having was due to a setting he had it on. Not sure though, maybe it's how they operate. But the dot would not stay on. The button was a momentary contact pressed by the middle finger as I griped the gun. Very momentary in deed. I had to make a very deliberate effort to press it, and when I put my trigger finger on the trigger to shoot, out went the light! Not something I would want to happen when defending my life! "Hold on bad guy, wait a few seconds, I have to make sure I am pressing the button. OK, there's the light, now I can shoot! OOPS, trying to pull the trigger, but the dot disappeared.can you hold on 'til I get it back on?"
Secondly, even though the CT is supposed to be the best, and brightest, I had to search to find the dot on a piece of dark blue truck fender we were using as a target. It was not at night, or even dusk. But it was a cloudy day, and even if the dot stayed on, it was very time consuming to find it.
I much prefer my method with my un gimmick adorned LCP. See threat, draw gun, and point, squeeze trigger, threat neutralized.
 
I personally would never trust my life to circuits, and batteries.

Yeah, I kind of think the same thing plus in a self defense situation you might get shot while looking for the little red spot.

However, that's just me.

If you want information make sure you get some from someone who has experience with the green lasers too. I've never used one of those.
 
I have CT grips for a 1911 and I am quite happy with them. For low light they really add a whole new perspective for target acquisition, it took me awhile to learn the benefits.
The laser sight should not replace a good flash light in very low light conditions, the red dot shows where the bullet will go but it will not ID the target or what is behind it.
I find the CT grips for the 1911 point well, I can point the gun at a target actuate the laser and it's pretty dang close without using the iron sights.
 
I have used Crimson Trace since company was formed.SN 52 on j-frame,zero once and it's still perfect.Daily work on my farm is the proving ground.CS is BEST! Have 3 more,same story. :D
 
I can point the gun at a target actuate the laser and it's pretty dang close without using the iron sights.

BINGO! That is exactly where the laser shines, excuse the pun. As a training device to practice instinct shooting without actually shooting. Affords lots of practice when, and where you can't actually be shooting.
 
Frankie1449: My Son and I are die hard ((( Crimson Trace Laser ))) fans. We have been using them for several years. And we have 9 of them on some of our most used and carried Handguns. We have never had any type of problems with any of our Crimson Trace Lasers. And the battery life is exceptional, we put new batteries in ours once a year, but I think we could probabley go two years with out any problem. Crimson Trace Lasers are a great product and we have them on every one of our CC and HD firearms. I was buying gas one night at a self service station, when a car with four gang bangers pulled up at a gas pump right next to me. All four got out and one of them came toward me asking for gas money. And when I said no, he told me they could take my money or even take my car. But when that Little Red Dot appeared on his chest. Every thing changed and I think his remark to the other gang bangers was something like run this Old White SOB has got gun and he and his thug running buddies were gone. I know my CTL save me from being Robbed, or Hurt,or My Car Stolen that night.
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Hmm?

My ex-agency bought about a dozen of CT's for SIG about 10-15 yrs or ago. They were screwed on and they zeroed easily. (not on my duty gun, I didn't want one) We could do some interesting stuff with them, like poppers, in the near dark, from the hip, at 50 yds. There were a couple of instances where it was believed that the laser had a strong deterence effect when applied to bad guys.


But we had issues with them holding up in 24-7, all condition LE work in an exposed duty rig. I don't think any of those lasers are on the job now.

Maybe they make them better now, Maybe tree cops are hard on stuff, but those CT's didn't cut it then.
 
CT's are expensive, but they are the best. And they are the only ones that activate as soon as you grip the gun.

They keep you looking at the bad guy and not at your gun, which is your natural instinct anyway.

All my carry guns get the CT treatment.
 
I had CT's on a Glock 19 at one time. IMHO,they are a quality product. The problem I experienced was constantly having move my trigger finger from blocking the laser. I do feel that a laser is a good supplement to iron sights and may give them another try.
 
Best in the industry. In my opinion there is not even a close second. Military and police use them. I have them on several guns. They stay true and take abuse. Best of all, Crimson Trace, located in Wilsonville, Oregon, has top notch Customer Support should you ever need it. Free batteries for life is kinda nice too...
 
Going on 10 years now using then on my Kimber Ultra Carry 1911 3 inch. Never had a problem. Have shot about 900 -1200 rounds with them. They are a back up system to my iron sights. If you can not get the gun up you can shoot from the hip very well.
 
CT lasers are very reliable and not intrusive in any way. They add a dimension to aiming ability that no other device or practice can replace. It is well worth the money to have on a gun you may need in a dire situation. Being able to "aim" without aiming may be your only alternative. Replace the batteries regularly and there's little worry about functioning. I can't think of a single reason not to have one on a carry gun, provided one is made for your model.

Some people assume a laser replaces your sights. :confused: No. A laser amplifies, (no pun intended), and supplements your sights. More is better on a defensive weapon.;)
 
I have never been a fan of lasers for anything but training to see how much movement you have while pulling the trigger. Or to verify your aim in instinct shooting.
I personally would never trust my life to circuits, and batteries.
I have never had any experience with Crimson Trace until yesterday. I was trying a friend's LCP with the CT laser mounted underneath. He doesn't get real technical with things, and did not have the owner's manual with him, so possibly one of the problems I was having was due to a setting he had it on. Not sure though, maybe it's how they operate. But the dot would not stay on. The button was a momentary contact pressed by the middle finger as I griped the gun. Very momentary in deed. I had to make a very deliberate effort to press it, and when I put my trigger finger on the trigger to shoot, out went the light! Not something I would want to happen when defending my life! "Hold on bad guy, wait a few seconds, I have to make sure I am pressing the button. OK, there's the light, now I can shoot! OOPS, trying to pull the trigger, but the dot disappeared.can you hold on 'til I get it back on?"
Secondly, even though the CT is supposed to be the best, and brightest, I had to search to find the dot on a piece of dark blue truck fender we were using as a target. It was not at night, or even dusk. But it was a cloudy day, and even if the dot stayed on, it was very time consuming to find it.
I much prefer my method with my un gimmick adorned LCP. See threat, draw gun, and point, squeeze trigger, threat neutralized.

I have Crimson Trace Lasergrips on my S&W 642. I have it zero'd with my iron sights. When I draw the gun and aim down the sights, the dot is there on the target to help me. If the dot isn't there, I already have my iron sights aligned.

If you don't practice with your iron sights anymore because you have some gizmo on your weapon, you may have a problem someday when your gizmo fails you.
 
I have the CT grips on my edc. They are easy to install. The best part to me about the grip models is most of them actuate using a button where your middle finger is on the gun so when you firmly grab the grip it automatically comes on.

I don't really practice using them much after zeroing it for ten yards but if I ever had to draw in a defensive situation that's one more tool I have avaible without any extra thought. Also they will send you free batteries annually if you register the product.

I've tried some of the side mount (laserlyte) and front mounted lasers on others guns but didn't care for them. The biggest benifit to the grip lasers is that you don't have to make a conscious decision to activate it it just comes on. They do add a little bulk in width but in my case it actually makes my XD fit my hand better.
 
Surprised to hear so many referring to them as merely training aids. In low light, real world scenarios, iron sights cannot get you on target as quickly or precisely as a CT laser can. I feel a whole lot safer having them on my carry guns after dusk or in any scenario where I would have to pinpoint center mass right now or be shot.
 
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