LAPD gun buy back today - video

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Today I went to the LAPD gun buy back in Wilmington.

The good news is that there were significantly fewer people at this event than in the past. Usually there is a long line of cars that stretches all the way down PCH and into the parking lot.

Today there were so few cars that initially I thought the event had been canceled.

The bad news is that every person I saw turning in a gun was also turning in ammunition. In the past when cars were lined up you could have offered to buy it from them while they were outside the parking lot. However, the police had the entire lot roped off and were not letting media inside.....unless you were on their "tow the line corporate media" list.

Here is the video.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI2rCIAJhCM
 
I wonder if they finally solved that pesky little legal issue, that the gun "buyback" programs were actually being conducted in violation of CA law?

(no background checks, no waiting period on the "transfer", etc.)

There was a report a while back about a gun buyback program that was shut down for those reasons. (don't recall if it was in CA or not, sorry).

Now, either they solved the legal issues (got an exemption, etc.,) or, they didn't, and are doing business the same old (and illegal) way, and are keeping out the public & unsympathetic cameras, to reduce the odds of anyone noticing (and proving) they are breaking the law.

I wonder which it is in this case....?
 
I've always wonder just what kind of "junk" you can bring in and still have them buy the gun. For example, I have:

Some kind of old .38S&W revolver with the name "Victory" - severely pitted, cracked frame handle (frame, not just the grip), missing some parts - basically looks like the original quality would rival that of Lorcin in its day.

Iver Johnson top-break frame and barrel, no finish, missing everything except the frame and barrel.

Lorcin .380 frame without parts.

Do you think I could get $150 for all three of these?
 
I dislike the idea entirely. My feeling is: If a legal gun owner wants to sell a legal gun he can go to a legal gunshop any time he likes and get his legal money above board regardless of gun buyback programs.

Some people are legitimately catered to in these 'buybacks' but I can't say that the uninformed gun owner should really be the audience since as a legal gun owner they presumably had some type of experience buying the firearm legally in the first place. So by the process of elimination I have a very finite number of reasons a person would participate in these things.

Is there something to these buybacks in CA where say, a widow that doesn't actually have a license to have the firearm can rid herself of the firearm that had belonged to her deceased husband?
 
As I understand, most buyback programs buy the guns with no questions asked -- a good way to get some cash for stolen guns.
 
KyJim, I was thinking the same thing.

Lets see, I need some cash or want the gift card. I report my gun stolen, then turn it in to the authorities.

The authorities, from what I understand, find out it is stolen and then have to return it to me.

I hope everyone of those guns they bought have to be returned to the owners. :p

Looking at the people in the cars and the cars themselves, they sure do not meet the hollyweird criteria of a gang banger.
 
From a different angle...

Well, after watching the video it's apparent that some of the firearms removed from the vehicles were NOT transported in accordance with CA laws.

Funny, I didn't see any of the drivers cited or arrested for illegally transporting firearms in those cases :(

Rules for them and rules for us.

Now, if anyone, say like us, were stopped and were illegally transporting firearms we'd be in a world of hurt :eek:

Oh, and it was sad to see the trash cans lined up ready to receive firearms like they were just so much junk!

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4D5 is correct. I saw numerous handguns transported illegally. I would bet that the vast majority of the people turning in the guns don't know California laws regarding transport or possession.
 
Most "buybacks" (an incorrect term, since they never owned them in the first place) are no questions asked, no serial numbers run, we destroy the bad guns, operations run by politicians through local law enforcement.

Now if your grand dad's Colt single action was stolen, and you reported it stolen, and was turned in at one of these farces, you would never know it. That is more than likely illegal in itself.
 
Seems at a Seattle buyback a couple of years ago, several police officers improved their personal collections, presumably with their own money and not the local foundation grant that sponsored the program. I've also heard of some dealers who purchased firearms from officers not long after the event.

Just hearsay to me, but wouldn't be surprised.
 
I can't say I disagree with the programs themselves, as much as the propaganda spin that goes along with them. But claiming that they are a dumping ground for stolen guns or murder weapons doesn't make much sense to me unless further proof of that surfaces.

Let's see, you just shot someone and need to get rid of the gun. You could go toss it off a pier and it will pretty much never be found. Or go hand it over to the police. Which would you choose? Oh sure, they say "no questions asked". But no questions need be asked. How do you know they don't have a camera set up to record who turns in what and then run the serials to look for hot guns.
I wouldn't put it past them.

As for stolen guns. I'm sure stealing a gun generally requires some effort. Enough that the $100 gift card wouldn't be worth it. Take a Glock for example. A $500ish new, $400ish used pistol that on the street would likely fetch closer to $700 dollars CASH. Are you really gonna sell it off for a $100 giftcard? After the hassle and risk you went through stealing the thing?

Really these programs don't get "crime guns" "off the street". All they are is a depository for unwanted guns from owners who can't be bothered to get rid of them in more profitable ways. Like the rusty broken revolver grandma finds in her dead husband's attic chest. She has neither the know-how nor the desire to be a responsible owner of the gun. It's probably broken to the point that no shop will give her anymore than $20 for it as scrap and parts. And still have to got through the FFL hassle for that. And tossing it in the trash can is no good since some kid might find it and shoot his foot off.
Suddenly the buyback sounds pretty nice. They're guaranteed to take whatever piece of junk you bring in and give you decent money for it. No paperwork to deal with and you know it'll atleast get disposed of properly.
 
I'd like to go to a gun buy back. I have one that cost more than it's worth to fix. I could put that money towards another gun.
 
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