Lady shopper with CCW permit cuts holdup short and gets grief for it

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Shopper cuts holdup short
http://www.sptimes.com/News/052400/Hernando/Shopper_cuts_holdup_s.shtml

In her purse, the woman hid a gun - just the thing to stop a man threatening Wal-Mart employees.

By JAMIE MALERNEE

© St. Petersburg Times, published May 24, 2000


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SPRING HILL -- Sandra Suter was standing in the check-out line at Wal-Mart on Monday when she saw several store employees wrestling with a man.

"Drop the knife! Drop the knife!" one of the employees yelled at the man, who authorities say was trying to steal a VCR. The man, identified as Willie J. Redding, dropped the appliance, pulled a small blade and lunged, cutting two employees, a Hernando County sheriff's report said.

Suter, a 53-year-old grandmother of two, reacted. Within seconds, she rushed to the scuffle.

"I have a concealed weapons permit," she announced as she whipped out the .40-caliber semiautomatic handgun she keeps in her purse.

"Either drop the knife, or I'll shoot you," she said as she held the weapon to the man's face.

After a few tense moments, during which Suter repeated her threat, Redding dropped the knife and surrendered to store security. Redding of 262 A St., Brooksville, now faces a charge of armed robbery and two counts of battery.

Authorities say the 50-year-old Brooksville man walked into the Spring Hill store with an empty VCR box, said he wanted to make an exchange and then tried to leave with a new VCR. Redding, who has previous convictions for selling drugs and dealing in stolen property, was taken to the Hernando County Jail. He was released Tuesday on $3,000 bond.

After the arrest, several employees, who did not need treatment for minor cuts, and a Hernando County sheriff's deputy thanked Suter for her decisive action.

Suter's husband and grown children are calling her a hero. But the 5-foot-3 homemaker just laughs at the label.

"I just did what I thought was right," she said. "It was the first time I've ever had to pull my gun other than at the firing range. I don't know what made me do it."

Suter said she has carried the gun in a special pouch in her purse since March. Her son urged her to get it, saying she needed protection during long drives to visit out-of-state relatives. Suter picked the chrome handgun because it was "pretty."

She would have used it Monday if necessary. "I would have, had I had a clear shot," she said.

Suter is not a member of the National Rifle Association and said she does not get involved in "any of that politics." But she strongly supports Americans' right to bear arms. She and her family often gather at a Lakeland shooting range to practice.

"It's brought our family closer together," she said. She and her husband keep child safety locks on their guns and have instructed their grandchildren, ages 4 and 2, not to touch them, she said.

Although authorities said they were relieved no one was hurt, spokesmen for the Hernando County Sheriff's Office and Wal-Mart advise civilians not to get involved in such situations. "We want to keep our stores a pleasant place to shop, so we would never encourage our customers to arm themselves," said Wal-Mart spokesman Tom Williams.

"In terms of how she handled herself, she acted responsibly," said sheriff's spokeswoman Deanna Dammer. "But next time the situation might not end so well."

Shopper Lorinda Smith, who was in the candy aisle during the confrontation, said Tuesday that she was more frightened by Suter's gun then the man's knife.

"That scared the c--- out of me, that someone could have a gun in the store," said Smith of Hernando Beach. "This one lady was in there with her children and when she saw (the gun) she was like, "Get on the ground! Get on the ground!' If I was there with my kids, I would have had a heart attack."

NRA officials did not return phone calls. Kim Mariani, spokeswoman for Handgun Control Inc., said Suter's actions, while brave, could have hurt someone.

"God forbid something went wrong," Mariani said. "It just escalates the situation, and a lot of times it's unnecessary."



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Now I see the error of my ways!

Next time some violent yahoo is waving a knife around, I'll just hand him my wallet and let him cavort out the door with the VCR and whatever else he can pack out.

"If God had not wanted them to be sheared, he would not have made them sheep." -- Bad Guy from the Magnificent 7
 
Amazing how shameful HCI can be. I am sure this idiot from HCI is relieved to know that none of the seven folks shot in the head in NYC (five died so far) were armed. It might have escalated things or scared some kids.

I wonder of the police in NYC said, "Well, sure, these people are all dead because they didn't have the right to defend themselves...but maybe next time it will be OK and the victims will live."

Pathetic. This woman was a hero. Wal-Mart should give her a lifetime supply of free ammo...from the gun department.
 
"God forbid something went wrong"? Something had already gone wrong before the gun was even in the picture. Another instance of excusing the actions of the guilty.

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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is power. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearsome master." George Washington
 
"Kim Mariani, spokeswoman for Handgun Control Inc., said Suter's actions, while brave, could have hurt someone."

Two people were already hurt. If she didn't do what she did, perhaps even more would have or someone might have died. Maybe he'd have taken them in the back and slit their throats... nah, that doesn't happen.

Where is HCI when the police accidentally shoot someone 41 times? But I guess they wouldn't know what to do with all of those second faces.
 
Question . What did she do that a LEO would not have done ? Had a female officer her age and build showed up would she have acted any differently logicaly speaking . Pull your gun and force the perp to back down . The only diff was that a LEO was not there but she was . If this fool cut 2 people already he was on a roll . Picture this . He's got his loot and is running out as the manager hopes he will . A lady carrying a child is coming in the door he wants to get out through . You're a bright bunch . Fill in the gaps .

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MountainGun44,
I hope you don't mind, but I posted a new thread in General using your idea (giving you full credit, of course :))
I think it would be great if everyone wrote a letter to Wal*Mart suggesting they give the lady "free ammo for life!"
 
Free ammo for life? That would end up costing them a whole lot. Lets see.... 500 rounds two to three times a week at the range... (well since she's got free ammo might as will use it right?) That's 10 boxes at $15 per box or $150 per week. Comes to $1,800 per year. She's got another 25 years or so left, that would end up costing K-Mart say $45,000... Sounds good to me... lets see if we can't get it for her... Afterall most anti's would not think that a lifetime supply of ammo would be that much... may a box or two a year... :)



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This is the kind of thing the gun-grabbers don't want to get out to the public.

Because it shown how wrong there position is.

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Here's my letter to the editor on this and other defense shootings. Feel free to cut and paste if you like it.

In the past week, there have been a couple of stories involving guns that
have captured the headlines nationwide: the shooting at a Wendy's
restaurant in New York and the killing of a Florida teacher by a 13-year
old student. There have been other stories in that same timeframe,
though, that apparently do not rise to the threshold of "news."

On 5/20, two masked gunmen entered JM Distributors, a variety store in
Indianapolis, and threatened owner Judy Moore, who had been shot in an
armed robbery just two years ago. A 70 year-old friend of Mrs. Moore
shot the two robbers, killing one and wounding the other.*

On 5/21, at 2:45 am, a deranged man smashed a glass door on a Salt
Lake City home, entered, and told the father of six "Adios, amigos." The
father fired a couple of warning shots, but the intruder still lunged at
him. The father then fired, killing the attacker.**

On 5/24, a man with a knife stabbed and slashed employees at a
Wal-Mart store in Spring Hill, Florida. A 53-year old grandmother
pulled a pistol from her purse and gave the slasher an ultimatum: drop
the knife or be shot. The ultimatum and the gun ended the bloodshed.***

On 5/25, two gunmen entered a mobile home in an Atlanta suburb about
midnight, and tried to rob the residents. They shot one resident, but
another resident fired back, killing one of the robbers and sending the
other fleeing the trailer.****

Studies by the criminology department of Florida State University
estimate that armed citizens confront criminals as many as 6800 times a
day in this country, usually without a shot being fired, yet these stories
are seldom reported in the press. One has to wonder why. Is it because
these instances bear no resemblance to Columbine, and are therefore not
newsworthy? Or could it be that the stories of legitimate armed defense
contradict the "guns are bad" editorial platforms of most major news
outlets, including the Journal Sentinel?


*Source: The Indianapolis Star @ http://www.starnews.com/news/citystate/0520st_robbed.html

**Source: Deseret News @ http://www.desnews.com/cgi-bin/libstory_reg?dn00&0005220708

***Source: St. Petersburg Times
@http://www.sptimes.com/News/052400/Hernando/Shopper_cuts_holdup_s.shtml

****Source: Atlanta Journal Constitution
@http://www.accessatlanta.com/news/2000/05/23/fulton.html
 
Very good story, that just shows the need to have CCW in all states, it would definately cut down on the crimes because criminals don't want to become victims of a weapon used on them.

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"After a few tense moments, during which Suter repeated her threat, Redding dropped the knife and surrendered to store security."

I would say that the thug was feeling her out at that moment, judging if she would really pull the trigger. When he sensed she would, he dropped the knife.
Lesson to be learned: don't carry a gun, and don't pull it unless you intend to use it. Predators can sense weakness.


"....Wal-Mart advises civilians not to get involved in such situations. "We want to keep our stores a pleasant place to shop, so we would never encourage our customers to arm themselves," said Wal-Mart spokesman Tom Williams. "


Friggin idiots. They don't want WalMart customers to be armed because they want it to be a pleasant place to shop?
And I suppose it was realy pleasant when the street thug came in and pulled a knife and started cutting up the unarmed people?



"Shopper Lorinda Smith, who was in the candy aisle during the confrontation, said Tuesday that she was more frightened by Suter's gun then the man's knife."


Wow, some people really are that stupid, eh?
She is more afraid of a well trained citizen with a gun, than a predator criminal with a knife, who is using it to cut up innocent people.



""God forbid something went wrong," Mariani said. "It just escalates the situation, and a lot of times it's unnecessary." "



Hm, it seemed to STOP that situation, rather than escalate anything. I would like to see proof that a law abiding citizen pulling a gun to stop a violent crime EVER escalates the situation.
Even in the face of an incident where a citizen pulling a gun stopped the crime, they are shameless and stupid enough to make these statements.



Let's see....what if they had called the cops? Oh yeah, I am sure they already did! Where were the cops? Well, they were on their way, and probably showed up just in time to take reports, like they always do. As we know, cops only stop 5% of violent crimes in progress, (that leaves 95% of them to be stopped by YOU) and here we see why. Only someone on the scene has the time to stop a violent crime from continuing.

This is, of course, NOT to bash on cops, they get there as fast as they can, but in reality, it just ain't fast enough when a violent crime averages 30 seconds to completion.






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When they speak of instituting "common sense gun control laws" keep this quote in mind:

"A `common-sense' approach to gun violence in America would be to ban handguns,"
- Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center, (Washington Post, March 2000)



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