Well I ordered one today fron comp-tac. It is the undercover model,that will be my defenders new home. I hope I like it. I also bought 4 new pairs of jeans one size larger so it should work.There's only one problem,for years I have had a 34 inch waist,now for somw reason I had to buy 36 inch pants. I think it must be the late fifties disease,but my wife says no its just me getting fat. sj