Kosovo Misconduct: Are you suprised?

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Monday September 18 6:10 PM ET
US Kosovo Report Shows Misconduct

By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Army paratroopers abused and beat civilians in Kosovo after their training for a peacekeeping mission failed to tone down their ``combat mentality,'' according to an Army investigative report that also blamed the soldiers' commanders for ignoring signs of trouble in the unit.

The commander of the soldiers' battalion, Lt. Col. Michael D. Ellerbe, was faulted for pursuing a task - to ``identify and neutralize'' Albanian splinter groups - beyond the scope of the peacekeepers' mission, the report said.

That created a situation which invited soldiers to ``step over the line of acceptable conduct,'' the report concluded.

Defense Secretary William Cohen issued a statement Monday, while traveling in Asia, that called the incidents described in the report a matter of ``grave concern.'' He endorsed Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric Shinseki's decision to order a high-level review and to take ``corrective actions as appropriate.''

The investigation was ordered after Staff Sgt. Frank J. Ronghi - a member of A Company, 3rd Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment of the 82nd Airborne Division - was accused of raping and murdering an 11-year-old Kosovo Albanian girl in Vitina last January. Ronghi was convicted and sentenced in August to life in prison.

The investigative report recommended that commanders consider court-martialing an officer, Lt. John Serafini, also of A Company, 3rd Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, for assault and conduct unbecoming an officer and for communicating a threat. He admitted to holding an unloaded gun to the head of a Kosovo Albanian man during an interrogation and told investigators, ``I was totally wrong.''

Several other officers and soldiers were recommended for lesser punishment.

At the Fort Bragg, N.C., headquarters of the 82nd Airborne Division, spokesman Maj. Gary Tallman said Monday that in addition to Ronghi, nine soldiers received administrative punishment for actions in Kosovo, but no others were court-martialed. Tallman would not specify soldiers who were punished.

During his trial, Ronghi's attorneys read into the court record excerpts from the investigative report, including descriptions of misbehavior by several soldiers from Ronghi's unit. The full report was withheld from public release until the Army edited it to remove classified information.

In a sworn statement to the investigators, Ellerbe defended his actions. He said ``neutralizing'' Albanian splinter groups was ``the only task implied'' by the U.S. peacekeeping contingent's overall purpose.

``It was essential to eliminate the corrupt leadership that was suspected of committing all of the violent crime in Vitina,'' Ellerbe said, referring to the city in southeastern Kosovo for which his unit was responsible.

``My view is, to be successful at maintaining security in this area and policing the area, you have to eliminate the people that were causing the problems,'' he said.

The investigative report, conducted by Col. John W. Morgan III of the 1st Infantry Division, interviewed numerous soldiers who said Ellerbe's unit had created the impression of being pro-Serbian. This, coupled with Ellerbe's emphasis on ``neutralizing'' Albanian splinter groups, made Vitina ``the natural focal point for abuses and excessive use of force against the Albanians,'' Morgan concluded.

Morgan said the murder of 11-year-old Merita Shabiju was an isolated incident, although he found systemic problems fostered by a ``command climate'' that tolerated misbehavior, at least tacitly. He said battalion and company commanders knew or should have known of alleged misconduct.

``It is my opinion that battalion and company-level leadership failed to take appropriate action based upon reported allegations of soldier misconduct, to include the excessive use of force,'' Morgan wrote.

The report focused attention on whether the 3rd Battalion of the 504th received proper training in peacekeeping tasks, such as crowd control, in the several weeks before the unit went to Kosovo in September 1999. It concluded from interviews with soldiers that they misunderstood their purpose.

One soldier, whose name was not disclosed, told the investigator: ``I don't think we were prepared for what we came into when we got down here. We expected to get fired at and things like that. We didn't expect things to be so calm and laid-back. I actually thought it would be more like combat.''

Said another: ``I would say what we were trained on and what we actually saw when we got over here were two different things. I think the soldiers came over here expecting to lock and load or (be) ready for ground combat.''

Because they were not adequately trained for the full range of peacekeeping tasks, some soldiers ``experienced difficulties tempering their combat mentality,'' the report said. The investigator concluded that the unit's overly aggressive tendencies were manifest in its slogan: ``Shoot 'em in the face.''

Yep, makes perfect sense to send the nations rapid deployment force to "keep the peace." What suprises me is that people didn't wonder why THE rapid deployment force is wasting time in Kosovo. Since the 82nd Airborne is the only division capable of wheels up in 18 hours or less, what would've happened if there were a real crisis pop up while they were playin' Sheriff Taylor?
 
For what it's worth. Both British and French solders have been charged and convicted of the same type of crimes while on duty in Kosovo.

The Germans and Russians don'tadmit to any problems, but I'm sure they have had some bad apples also
 
I just don't see this as a case of bad apples so much as the Government using the wrong tool for the job. I was in the 82nd back in 90-94. Peacekeeping isn't exacly their forte. Taking down airfields for the "leg" units to move in on, sure. Taking over small Central American countries (Panama), sure, but keeping the peace? They almost sent us to Haiti, and we all knew that would've been disasterous. Maybe someday we'll learn. I wasn't so ambiguous about Kosovo. I sided with the Serbs. The mission was doomed to failure.
Our loyalties were misplaced by our emotions. You don't make foriegn policy on emotions. The Serbs rescued hundreds of downed American Air-crews. The Serbs stuck their necks out for us during WWII, and even fought the Nazi's effectively tying them up fighting a Guerrilla (sp?) campaign. I felt like we lost sight of our loyalties. The reason the Serbs were angy is possibly because they have a good right to be angry. America hasn't been around as long as Serbs have been getting screwed by Croats, muslims, and "Ethnic Albanians."
 
The US just needs to keep it's nose out of other people's business. Since when did we get annointed God? I saw our next "peacekeeping" mission should be in the UN headquarters in New York.

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

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"our next "peacekeeping" mission should be in the UN headquarters in New York."

Dangus, I respectfully disagree.

A mission to UN HQ in NY should be to break things. :)

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"Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way."
 
:mad: :mad:

They are just doing what they are "trained" for. It is NOT there fault they were trained to kill people!

I am surprised I have not heard that about these guys!

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Dead [Black Ops]
 
DorGunR,

That's what peacekeeping is all about buddy..

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DorGunR:

A mission to UN HQ in NY should be to break things.

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Can somebody give the Rock a "Hell Yea!"


TR
 
Dead, you may want to rethink your statement - no US Soldier is trained to rape 11 year old girls and murder civilian noncombatants. That's bull****.

This is a failure of command. Everyone should get the axe.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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Spark, what he is saying is that troops are trained to be inconsiderate and instinctive, they are trained to see an objective and take it. Many of the things they are trained to do should only be put into practice in the confines of a war. Peacekeeping forces them to function outside of their own training, but not only that, it weakens their training. Some of them feel threatened, and like soldiers are trained to do, they lash out, only in "peacekeeping" they aren's supposed to do that. My opinion is that if you're gonna keep the peace, you should send cops to do the job, not soldiers. I mean, have the soldiers there to hold territory, but to go around making sure everyone behaves is not a job for soldiers.

Also all this disarmament crap needs to stop, everywhere we go to "peacekeep" we go around stealing all their guns away, regardless of their involvement or affiliation, and this is unfair. Rebels will continue to get guns, terrorist will as well, but there are people we take guns away from that could have used them to protect from those two types.

Take for example in Kosovo where the UN soldiers kept disarming ethnic serbs who were trying to set up a gaurd post to keep terrorists out of their neighborhood. The French soldiers took their guns, and not even a full 24 hours after that the murders started up again, and so finally they're allowed to gaurd their bridge. Now of course the UN is going to basically try to make Kosovo into a mini-UN, and try to cram all their bs down their throats.

I find it deeply disturbing when I look upon our own troops and I wished someone would throw them back into the sea or back across the borders where they belong, and get them to mind their own business. This "peacekeeping" crap has to end, I am so sick of our soldiers being forced into the role of JBT.

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
When all hell breaks loose THEN send in the Airborne . They are trained for combat . Turn them loose and watch order returned .
As for the rapist ....he should die like a dog in the street .

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TOM
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