Kinetic Munitions

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I came across a place called Kinetic Range on Ammoseek. The prices seem too good to be true, 125 grain 38 special 50 rounds for $12. The website says the remanufacture ammo, whatever that means. I assume the ammo are reloads. Has anybody here used this stuff? I've been burned before on out of spec reloads and would like to hear from someone who has used this stuff before I risk my hard earned dough on an order.

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"Commercially" reloaded = Remanufactured...

I have shot lots of reman ammo over the decades...

Used to love the Ultramax .357 back in the day...Could buy them by the thousand for cheap in the early 90's...

I am still using the mixed head stamp cases from back then...
 
Sorry that bothered you Hartcreek, but I was looking for input from someone who had actually used this stuff. I was not seeking an evaluation of their website. If someone had used the ammo, they will already know about the website too. Nontheless, in the future I will try and include the web addy.
 
Yeah Salmoneye, I like reloads too and hope to have my press set up in a month or two to start rolling my own again. It's just after being burned by LAX reloads I'm a bit gun shy about comercial reloads right now. (The LAX 357 were on the hot side and pushed the primer out enough to jam my revolver)
 
Verrry strange. I just tried to place an order for 357 & 38 but the website doesn't seem to process the order. Tried the "contact us" button and received some gibberish about getting ahold of the webmaster and the IP address being changed. If this is an example of Kinetics service, I guess all my questions have been answered. Looks like their website just disappeared. :rolleyes:
 
I don't know aboutt Kinetic Munitions, but there was a recent thread on here about various remanufacturing companies. Georgia Arms (which I've shot) seems to have a decent following as does Black Hills.
 
Well, their site seems up again and I couldn't resist ordering a couple hundred rounds of 38s and a box of 357. If nothing else I'll have more brass. I'll report back after I get a chance to shoot a few off and see how they do. Their so cheap at $12 a box I figured it was worth a try. If its the worst mistake I make this year, guess I can live with it. LoL
 
You know, it would be worth investing in an abused Hi-Point to test their 9mm reloads. Not a bad price, wouldn't mind picking some up....if I knew that squibs and double charges are non-existent.
 
"if I knew that squibs and double charges are non-existent"
From your lips to Gods ears Skans

Thanks G.Willikers, I saved the link. Always good to have another source on standby if this one's ammo stinks.:)
 
I have used Georgia arms a lot, since they are local to me. they are extremely popular in the cowboy stuff, there will be a line out the door sometimes with cass guys grabbing .50cal cans of .38s etc. they have some pretty awesome prices. I have never seen an issue with their pistol ammo, and I see it a lot, about a dozen of us from work all buy our ammo from them. I now reload my own, but still use them for components. I will say though, I got a box of hornaday v-max loaded .223 rounds from them and there wasn't any neck tension or crimp and the rounds were easily pushed into the case. there has also been a couple of recalls on rifle ammo, which can happen with any ammo manufacturer. I say as long as it's not a spankin new start-up without a strong following, then go for it, but inspect your rounds and pay attention to the consistency the first few times out. ammo is so expensive these days, you would almost be silly not to give re-mans a try.

http://www.georgia-arms.com/
 
What's up with Georgia arms .40 S&W +P+? I've not kept up to speed on all the newest ammo admittedly, but I didn't think there was even a SAMI +P standard for .40 S&W? And exactly what can fire +P+ .40 S&W? Just marketing BS?
 
In piggy backing on my Mates orders, way back when (he used to get big breaks on prices) I shot lots of Georgia Arms Reloads, not one failure, ever.

Hornaday 147g New 9mm, 4 lipped turned under, in 100 rounds! Jammed gun in IDPA Match, big time, now check every round for carry, or match use, drop in spare barrel, upend, watch them fall free!

Watched a re-loader in Canada, loads on Camdex? Machines out of Detroit. Great ammo he made. Below there info.

2100 Series Pistol Loading Machine
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The Camdex 2100 Series Loading Machine is speed adjustable to 4400 cycles per hour. The 2100 series will stop for and indicate on the touch screen control if any of ten faults have occurred. The 2100 Series features a total redesign of the control and monitoring system to enhance operator use and make fault correction fast and easy.
2100 Series Pistol Loading Machine
Click To Enlarge The 2100 Series Loader can produce ammunition in any NATO or commercial handgun caliber. Conversion packages are available to allow the machine to load more than one caliber of ammunition. It is shipped complete in one caliber. As with all Camdex products the 2100 Series Loader is backed by a one year warranty on materials and workmanship.

2100 Series Standard Features

Our state of the art control system monitors 10 functions simultaneously to ensure that the finished ammunition will be of the highest quality. An automatic 14 inch case feeder and a 14 inch variable speed bullet feeder are standard equipment. The automatic primer feed system is assisted and monitored by an Air/Vacuum system.
Monitoring Features
CASE LEVEL - Low case level in feed tube automatically shuts off machine.
CASE PROBE - Checks for case feeding, foreign particles and live rounds.
PRIMER POCKET PROBE - Mechanically checks the primer pocket for ringers.
PRIMER SLIDE - Shuts off the machine should a primer jam occur due to dirt or high anvils.
PRIMER FEED - Shuts off machine should it run out of primers.
PRIMER LEVEL – Fiber Optics automatically maintain approximately 60 primers in feed system
POWDER PROBE - Checks for both high and low powder charges.
BULLET FAULT - If the machine fails to feed or runs out of bullets, the machine shuts off.
VACUUM SYSTEM - Checks vacuum pressure to assure primer feeding.
CURRENT SENSOR - Any increase in preset amperage shuts off the machine.
The Camdex 2100 Series Loader has automatic primer feeding to improve production rates and simplify the loading process. Just put up to 400 primers in the bowl at one time and the feeder will supply the machine automatically. The primer feeder is controlled by a fiber optic monitoring system which allows approximately 60 primers into the feed tube. When the primer level falls below this amount the fiber optics will turn the feeder on. When the level has returned, the primer feeder will shut off. The feeder will also orient the primer to feed with the proper side up.
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The priming system is also monitored by a vacuum system which will shut the machine off should the machine run out of primers. The vacuum system is monitored by the SmartPanel, which informs the operator of the location of any of the monitored faults.


Click To Enlarge The Camdex 2100 Series and the Camdex 2200 Series Rifle Loader both use the SmartPanel and make the machines extremely user friendly. The electric current is 120 volts/60 Hz (also available in 220v/50hz) with 24V DC control circuitry to all external micro switches. All of the controlled functions of the machine are easily monitored on the touch-sensitive screen directing the operator to the location of any fault that occurs.

The 2100 Series control panel not only monitors 10 machine functions, it also provides easy access to all of the feeder controls. The vacuum pump is controlled through the PLC by way of the touch-sensitive screen and the power and speed controls for the case, primer and bullet feeders are located on the face of the panel.

THE LOADING PROCESS

The Camdex 2100 Series Loader has 11 stations in line. It sequentially moves the case from left to right. Each station performs a process or inspection for the succeeding station, until the cycling of the machine produces a finished cartridge with each cycle. After the case leaves the case entry tube it moves to the first station where the machine probes for a case with nothing inside of it. This starts the progression as follows: size and deprime, primer pocket probe to assure the entire primer has been removed from the primer pocket, prime, powder drop, powder probe (for over and under charge)and case-mouth bell, initial bullet seating, finish-depth bullet seating and final sizing, crimp and bullet check. When the round exits the machine it is ready to fire.
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Camdex, Inc - 2330 Alger Troy, MI 48083 - Phone: 248-528-2300
 
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