Kimber Combat Tupperware....Say it ain't so, JMB!!!

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Polymer Kimber's; innovation or blasphemy against the Holy of Holies?

Came across the polymer frame Kimbers surfing today. I've been looking for my first gun purchase. Have to admit the 1911's turned me off initially; staid, conservative, big, the antithesis of innovation. Like Cadillac before it reinvented itself with avant-garde, faceted styling.

But the plastic Kimbers caught my eye. Something about a 5" barrel married to no-nonsense polymer looks downright mean! What do you think?

http://www.kimberamerica.com/Polymer.htm

Others may prefer the aesthetics of chrome and wood grips, but I think wood grips went out with wooden teeth. :barf:

Did a search here and found that BUL Transmark makes the frames, so quality should be very good. The BUL M-5 "Government" model has an identical frame. See below.

http://www.bultransmark.com/products/government.htm

Will anyone here admit to owning Kimber Combat Tupperware or the BUL equivalent? Are plastic 1911's top-heavy? Do they suck up recoil? How do the slightly wider grips feel?

With mags full of ten rounds of big brass, I figure you can't go too far wrong with these toy Kimbers. What do they go for? If they cost an arm and a leg, as I suspect they do, I'll probably just go with a Sig.

Then I won't have to worry about making old JMB himself roll over in his grave. :rolleyes:
 
Normally, I'd agree too.
But I shot ArmySon's KZ-45 and found it to be OUTSTANDING.
If the Kimber is even CLOSE to a KZ - then it is a hell of a pistol.
 
...and I have the hots for an STI modular-framed double-stack in some sick caliber like 9x25 Dillon.
 
I'm not opposed to the idea of a polymer-framed 1911. But the fact is a lot of folks buy 1911s simply because they like their looks. To me anyway, the current polymer 1911s look just plain utt-bugly!:barf:

The STI comes the closest to being somewhat atttractive aesthetically, but it still needs to shed some raw material to look even remotely streamlined.
 
dsk,

Did I mention I wanted that STI blaster with a Hello-Kitty-pink frame? ;)

It wound be just so exquisitely wrong. Especially in some eargeschplitten loudenboomer caliber. :D
 
1911 Combat Tupperware Pricing

In case you're interested. Did some price checking. KZ-45's start at around a grand. Quite a discount compared to Wilson's other hardware. WHOOO, their steel and wood combo's are steep! Must be mahogany. :D

Kimber's basic polymers start at around $800. $850 if you want a stainless slide. I like the 2-tone look of stainless steel and polymer. Shweet.

http://www.arizonagunrunners.com/Products/Kimber/Polymer/PolymerSeries/polymerseries.html

Just one word; FOURTEEN! That's how many .45 rounds fit into Kimber's plastic toys. LEGAL 14 round mags available from dealers upon request. YEEEHAAWWW!

The metal inserts molded into the frames are substantial. That and 14 rounds in the handle should make them balance just fine compared to an all-steel variety, thank you very much. And the plastic soaks up recoil, I've read.

I doubt my first gun purchase will be a model 1911, but if it were, that stainless/polymer Kimber would be my most likely choice.

Maybe it'll be my second gun purchase.

14+1 rounds of .45 ACP! Holy Shweeet! 7+1 my @$$! :D
 
One came into the shop about a week ago for the store manager , he let me examine it , hmmm.. fit and finish is good, balance good(with 14rd ds mag ) not top heavy , I might be the second buyer of one . worthy of the Kimber name . they don't look as bad as you think . it's like a para but plastic , it looks like there is a alloy underframe under the plastic portions .
 
I've been saving for over a year for an AR or .308; every time I get close I get bitten by a new handgun!!!!:eek:

STILL don't have a "proper" mousegun (do a couple o' minnies count?); and lo, now I want a plastic 14 rnd .45!!!:mad:

...guess that .50 is a looooonng way off.........:(
 
This isnt the first time kimber has slapped hardcore 1911 fans in the face. Does anyone else remember when Kimbers reason for being was to create a full-tilt custom shop type gun with all the bells and whistles, for less than the price of the competators base model? When Kimber came out, they basicly had the same mission statement as Charles Daly...to make a working mans custom 1911. When Kimbers were cheap (IIRC they debuted at about $500 in the mid/early 90's) they couldnt give them away to the sheeple. When the true gun-nuts started noticing how much quality could be had for less than half the cost of a Gold Cup, They started buying them by the truckload. The mall ninjas just had to have the same kind of pistols that the guys were winning mathces with at the gun club and they started buying them. Kimber jacked the price through the roof in responce to the jump in sales. Now Kimbers popularity rests more in their price and snob appeal than their quality. The ironic thing is that now Kimber IS one of the pricey custom guns they first sought to compeat with. Kinda reminds me of how just a few short years ago, only 'bubbas' were driving Broncos and Cherokees (and they were selling for little more than a comperable family sedan..now that some SUV's cost more than fully-loaded Vette's, every soccer mom just has to have one). I have always liked big SUV's (anyone remember when any SUV was called a Jeep or Blazer, regardles of make) but before they got snob appeal, I was just some ego-maniac ozone killer with a phalic extension on wheels. Likewise, my Kimber was just some no-name throwaway gun before it got a $1k+ pricetag.
 
I am gratified to learn that, much to the consternation of the "slabsided" crowd, Kimber has decided to FOLLOW Lord Gaston bravely into the new century!!!!!!! :p :p :p
 
Carbon_15, the Kimber sold like gangbusters right out of the starting pen. They eventually had to increase the size of their workforce and facilities, and as a result they upped the price to help pay for it. Almost nobody in the industry felt they could hold the older price point for long, and sure enough they couldn't. Even at $650 the Kimbers are still a good buy, but now that they have added the Series II safety I won't be adding any more to my ensemble. Not that I dislike safeties, but I have found out the new design won't fire unless the grip safety is fully depressed. I found that out while trying to fire mine weak-handed.
 
I have

... the Kimber polymer and have found it to be an excellent weapon. Very controllable (moreso than most) and the 14+1 capacity is a pretty slick googaw too. I'm VERY pleased with it.
 
Cool. :cool:

I guess old John Moses will just have to install some ball bearings in his casket -- so he can roll over easier! :D

"Keep rollin', rollin', rollin'....Keep rollin', rollin', rollin'...Ooo-AH-ah-ah!"

Let's hear it for double-stacked mags in 1911's! Somethin' about 14 rnds of ACP that brings out your inner Neanderthal.

Today's lesson: Sometimes when tradition yields to progress, it's a good thing.

Now if someone would be kind enough to let me borrow his credit card, I have a gun purchase to make. (Can't blame a guy for tryin'.) :)
 
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