Keyes Predicts Gore Will Beat Bush

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Keyes Predicts Gore Will Beat Bush

Mar 9, 2000 9:30 PM

By RON JENKINS

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - Alan Keyes promised Thursday to stay in the
Republican presidential race because George W. Bush is too weak to stand
up to Al Gore on key moral issues like abortion.

``George Bush can't do it,'' Keyes said at the Oklahoma Capitol before a
speech at the Christian Heritage Academy in Del City. ``I've watched him
and he can't do it.''

Bush opposes abortion, but would make exceptions in cases of rape and
incest or to protect the life of a pregnant woman. Gore supports abortion
rights.

``So when he stands toe to toe with Al Gore ... he will come off looking
second best because he doesn't know how to make the case, properly and
effectively. And so we'll lose,'' said Keyes.

Keyes, a former Reagan administration official, said he did not take as a
personal rebuke the fact that he had not received more votes so far during
the primary process.

One reason he said he will not drop out of the race is that he wants to break
the mentality of Republicans going into the voting booth ``to be a rubber
stamp.''

``It's sickening, but if people want to go on with it, to go into the voting
booth and continue this garbage, it's no reflection on me,'' said Keyes, who
has campaigned strongly in opposition to legalized abortion, gay rights and
for prayer in schools.

He said he was presenting a message and if voters did not accept it, ``you
make a judgment against yourself and against America.''


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"Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way."
 
Unfortunately, I believe Keyes is right. Gore is already set to get a free ride from the news media -- hey, you didn't think those reporters were all fawning over McCain because they actually planned to vote for him, did you? -- and in an election that's as close as this one is likely to be, media bias will probably make the difference. I'd love to be proven wrong on this one, and there's still time for new developments between now and November, but right now, I fear The Evil Al Gore will indeed be our next president.
 
A month ago I would have though Keyes was right. However, in watching George W evolve on the campaign trail I think there's a good possibilty he can beat Gore. There is also a rumor that the powers that be are leaning heavily on Colin Powell to be VP candidate, which could clinch the election for Bush. I do not think McCain will accept a VP slot. Elizabeth "you don't need an AK47" Dole seems to be trying to wiggle her way to VP.

Bush's choice for VP will be based on where he needs the votes. In the Northeast (no conservatives there), with minorities (although Colin Powell isn't _really_ black), and with women. He needs Michigan, but Gov.
Engler isn't popular with moderates. So, I'd guess it will be Colin Powell, Dole or Christine Todd Whitman.

Cross your fingers.

Dick
 
There's no possible way Keyes can win. Even if he manages enough votes, he won't get the required electoral votes to win. All he is doing is hurting Republicans. Now you have Republicans splitting votes between Bush and Keyes. All Gore rides in the victory parade argh.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Monkeyleg:
Bush's choice for VP will be based on where he needs the votes. In the Northeast (no conservatives there), with minorities (although Colin Powell isn't _really_ black), and with women. He needs Michigan, but Gov.
Engler isn't popular with moderates. So, I'd guess it will be Colin Powell, Dole or Christine Todd Whitman.
[/quote]

Whitman would probably be a good choice for him, particularly since The Evil Al Gore may choose Diane Feinstein for his VP candidate. But I read lots of convincing arguments that Bush will choose Tom Ridge. If he did in fact select Powell, I think he'd win, but Powell seems to be sticking to his statements about not wanting an elected position.
 
If Alan Keyes thinks Algore will beat W, then why does Keyes continue to split the GOP vote?? He has to see that W is going to be the Republican nominee. Everybody else can see that. Much more productive to join forces against Algore, don't you think? If he "really" thinks W can't beat Algore, then he needs to throw all his support to "his" parties nominee.

I think if Algore chooses Feistein as his running mate he will be showing his true Liberal colors. She is just too far to the left to attract the more moderate voters, and will probably run more off than she attracts. The country may be ready for a woman VP, but not that leftist whacko. Wacko? Whacko?

W needs to carefully consider his choice for a running mate, Powell would be an excellent choice IMO. Dole would not. Powell is a low-profile, matter of fact, get it done, type of guy. Brimming with integrity, and intelligence. Dole? Libby probably would be a draw for the woman voter, but I'm not so sure W needs a lot of help there.(ever see a close-up of Algore's teeth? :eek: ) Keyes I feel is just too outspoken of a guy to be VP material. I may be wrong about that, I hope so, cause I really like the guy.

McCain is beaten, he was beaten fair and square, he needs to quit pouting and throw his support behind his parties nominee also. It seems like we haven't had a real united party with a lot of enthusiasm for the nominee since 1984.

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bullet placement is gun control

[This message has been edited by muleshoe (edited March 11, 2000).]
 
If you want to know why Keyes is still running, look at the reason he gave for thinking Bush would be beaten by Gore: "Because he doesn't know how to make the case, properly and effectively." He's not not attacking Bush on the issues, he's just saying that the guy isn't a good debater; And from what I've seen, that's true! The GOP has a real shortage of people who can speak clearly and persuasively, no question. And nobody can beat Keyes at THAT; He's won every debate hands down, according to polls of the people who actually watched them.

So, why is he hanging in? To win the Presidential nomination? Nah, he knows better than that. I think he's hoping for the VP nomination. I think they'd make a great team, as Keyes would bring to the ticket exactly what Bush needs; The ability to actually DEFEND Republican positions, on issues such as gun control, instead of running away. I think Keyes is running for the position of suplemental spine and speach writer!

In fact, here's a cataclysmic announcement: In all the years since I started voting, I have NEVER, not once, voted for anyone but the Libertarian, if there was a Libertarian candidate running for an office. But if Bush picks Keyes for his VP, I'll make an exception; They'll get my vote.

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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
Brett:

Good post, your right he's not attacking W so he probably is looking to be a VP candidate. I also think they would make a tough team to beat. I just hope W is smart enough to see this.

If we have the usual round of VP candidate debates Alan Keyes would kick a$$ on whoever Algore digs up. The media would finally have to give Keyes the recognition he deserves for winning debates.

What was the name of Perot's VP candidate in '92? His name escapes me, wasn't he a blast though?


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That was Admiral Stockdale, a great American hero and alumnus of Monmouth College, for whom our central building is named. . . . not much of a polician but apparently a hell of a soldier.


Hey, I'd be willing to accept Alan Keyes as VP, but let's face it, it ain't gonna happen. First, Dubya thinks he can win, which makes whether he can win for real irrelevant in this choice. Second, Dubya KNOWS that Keyes outshines him. I don't see Dubya as humble enough to accept that in a "subordinate" running mate. Third, Keyes, much as I love him, does not draw "moderates" and it's starting to look like "moderates are about 80% of the population from here.

I would want Keyes there because I'd expect him to calm Dubya down and tell him what to do in a crisis. But liberals and moderates can figure that out too and would be less than enchanted by the prospect.
 
I would like him to convince Powell to run with him. That would go along way towrds offsetting Bush's "Man-Boy" appearance to a lot of people. Powell would be an enormous help during a crisis, such as our upcoming war with China.
 
Don:

I wasn't questioning Stockdale's integrity as a miltary man. Actually I wasn't questioning his integrity at all. I think my point was, some folks don't show well on television, and some don't belong in politics. He falls into both catagories.

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bullet placement is gun control
 
I think Keyes is smart enough to know that he won't be selected as Dubya's VP -- Dubya needs a moderate on women's issues, which means somebody like Ridge -- but I think a cabinet position is a real possibility. Look for Keyes to campaign on a bit longer before throwing his support to Bush in the name of party unity (and a shot at Secretary of State).
 
I like some of the things Keyes says, but certainly not all of it. He says some pretty dumb things also. Like what he just said today.
By running a little longer, he gets to bask in the sun light a little longer, also pull in a few more contributions. If he stays in too much longer, he will loose all of my respect. I hope he doesn't become another Harold Stassen.
Bush needs a V.P. that will not only help in in the election, but is also reliably committed to his leadership. Keyes doesn't look like that kind of man.
As for cabinet posts, maybe a slim chance for Secretary of Education or Commerce. I don't think military or foriegn policy is his strong point.
 
I think Keyes' statement will come back to haunt him. "Why should we reward this guy with a post when he made statements that
gave the Dems ammuntion in the election?" would be the refrain.

I wish he would stick to the ethical problems of Gore, push RKBA and be a "good soldier" now and not knock Bush.

I got a request from Bush's headquarters asking for a donation. I told them that when I saw Keyes as VP, I would contribute.

As for Colin Powell, check out this article -- way too long to post, and, it's from the house organ of the John Birch Society, so be forwarned. That being said, I didn't see anything in there I disagreed with, and had my memory jogged to boot. http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1995/vo11no06/vo11no06_powell.htm

Bush won't get many black votes with Powell either. In the perverse mindset of the professional victim segment of the black population, Colin is regarded as the white man's boy. "He only got where he did because he cozied up to Whitey" -- this from black friends in Detroit who were moderates and lamented that mindset.

In these PC days though, I fully expect a woman or a "person of color" to be on the ticket as VP.

Personally, I don't care if they were polka-dotted or striped, as long as they start to reverse the direction we've been in the past
30 years in general and the last 8 in particular.

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[This message has been edited by Oatka (edited March 11, 2000).]
 
Oatka, I don't think Powell would attract the black vote either, because he's not "black."
As an example, a black columnist was writing about the Gore/Bradley debate at the Apollo and was musing about what would have happened if the Republican candidates were there. He said that Keyes wouldn't have been well-received because, as a conservative, he lost his "soul" a long time ago.

Powell _would_ draw the votes of whites who
like the idea of having more minority involvement at high levels. And he has integrity and name recognition. I just wonder if his wife is still opposed to the idea.

Dick
 
Bush can offer nothing you can't get from OwlGore, and that's why he'll lose. The boundaries of the discussion as is in the public eye is how can the Left agenda be further advanced.

All Bush can say is "I'm not Clinton."

Keyes would shift the debate to the philosophy behind the Declaration, the Declaration's effect on the Constitution, and how that's been trashed for the past.... oh, at least forty years now.

That's why Bush will lose. The fundamental issues are not being discussed. The debate is necessarily Socialist to begin with. How can Bush beat that?
Gore will win, Hitlery will run in 2008, the Republic will breathe its last gasp in 2009, and the good ol' USA will turn into just another country.
Or countries


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ALARM! ALARM! CIVILIZATION IS IN PERIL! THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE GATES!
 
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