brookstexas
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Anyone have or shot one of these? 380 or 9mm onlyhttp://talonindustries.com/
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KelTec fans seen the Talon knockoff?
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Tropical Z
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You'll find some info if you run a search.They sound great,but i've heard mostly of problems and trips back to the shop.I haven't fired one though so maybe they've solved their problems.
AndrewWalkowiak
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Talon Knockoff
I've handled them at shows, and tried hard not to judge them by appearance, because the original Kel-Tec's sport some semblance of the same "inexpensive" look, and are quality guns, or at least when they have problems, are backed up by excellent customer service and support. (Where else is an actual production/R&D gunsmith willing to talk to you? Or willing to fix your gun [for free] even after your own amateur attempts at "gunsmithing"?)
For the price, and for what they appear to be, the Talons and others are a very tempting deal.
But the Talon, and another K-T P11 clone, (I forget the name) are made by the former Davis, or Jennings groups, or one of their ilk, after they closed up shop in CA, re-organized, and moved to CO, IIRC. I guess they decided that Kel-Tec would be a good product line to try to emulate for their new bottom level market.
I would be willing to disregard their past and political baggage if they were actually making robust, if crude, guns at a bargain price. Unfortunately the same level of QC seems to be maintained as their previous companies products. Several reputable individuals on the KTOG list have purchased these clones to test them, and all reported feed problems and easily broken parts to various degrees, even after service. The metallurgy was suspect, and there is concern that some components, like their predecessors, are still zinc alloys as well.
It's actually rather sad, and a missed opportunity, as I think that people of limited means deserve inexpensive, but reliable arms for self defense, especially as they often live in the areas that need such protection the most. Even "bargain" guns like the Kel-Tec’s are often beyond their means, and most of these buyers are not involved enough in the "gun culture" to make informed choices on quality used arms, or suitable C&R or mil-surp alternatives.
Andrew
I've handled them at shows, and tried hard not to judge them by appearance, because the original Kel-Tec's sport some semblance of the same "inexpensive" look, and are quality guns, or at least when they have problems, are backed up by excellent customer service and support. (Where else is an actual production/R&D gunsmith willing to talk to you? Or willing to fix your gun [for free] even after your own amateur attempts at "gunsmithing"?)
For the price, and for what they appear to be, the Talons and others are a very tempting deal.
But the Talon, and another K-T P11 clone, (I forget the name) are made by the former Davis, or Jennings groups, or one of their ilk, after they closed up shop in CA, re-organized, and moved to CO, IIRC. I guess they decided that Kel-Tec would be a good product line to try to emulate for their new bottom level market.
I would be willing to disregard their past and political baggage if they were actually making robust, if crude, guns at a bargain price. Unfortunately the same level of QC seems to be maintained as their previous companies products. Several reputable individuals on the KTOG list have purchased these clones to test them, and all reported feed problems and easily broken parts to various degrees, even after service. The metallurgy was suspect, and there is concern that some components, like their predecessors, are still zinc alloys as well.
It's actually rather sad, and a missed opportunity, as I think that people of limited means deserve inexpensive, but reliable arms for self defense, especially as they often live in the areas that need such protection the most. Even "bargain" guns like the Kel-Tec’s are often beyond their means, and most of these buyers are not involved enough in the "gun culture" to make informed choices on quality used arms, or suitable C&R or mil-surp alternatives.
Andrew