Kel Tec Sub 2000

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Gentlemen,

Does anyone know anything about the Kel Tec Sub 2000? I have just recently heard about them and I'm seriously looking into them. I have seen some of the reviews and know the difference between the two models, 9mm/40.

Do you have experience with this weapon? Do you like it? Where can I find one?

I am very interested in your opinions!! Look forward for hearing from you.
 
GET ONE!

I'm not sure if they are still making them anymore. I know I see them new on shelves from time to time at the gunshop; so I'm not sure what the deal is.

I have one in .40 and it is an absolute rip to shoot. I love it. No problems, ever, either. I use the same Glock magazines in my pistol and Kel-Tec.

Mine primarily resides in a bugout bag except when I want to play.

I realize this probably isn't the most helpful review...
 
Bought one new a month ago off of gun broker. Mine is a 40 caliber. I have shot 100 rounds through it so far. I am happy with it so far. Was accurate enough at 70 yards standing unsupported using the iron (actually plastic) sights to hit a bobcat size target. Plastic parts had a few rough edges from the manufacturing process. 400 grit sandpaper smoothed it up fine. Seems well made, just not as fine a finish as it could be. Also a few screws needed tightening.

I bought it mainly because it folds to 16" and fits in a laptop case. It will be a pack gun / Jeep gun / truck gun that I take with me out into the pasture for unexpected varmits, which in my area could include large varmits like wild hogs or the smaller, such as bobcats, skunks, snakes, ......

I have to say it is the most ugly rifle I own, but it fits its' nitch well. It is not intended to be pretty, just utilitarian. I went with the 40 caliber vs. the 9mm to get the most "punch" from the design. It has a much greater "accurate working range" than a pistol of the same caliber, yet the size when folded is amazingly small. It uses pistol magazines, so if you are carrying both a pistol and this carbine then your ammunition needs are simplified. I give it two thumbs up. The design seems well thought out.

You get a lot of bang for the buck with this unusual carbine. It would serve well as a close quarters home defense weapon, a ranch rifle, a truck gun, or similar duty. It is not suited as a main-line deer rifle or long range gun, but it is not supposed to be.
 
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They are making them.

Keltec tools their machines to make one gun at a time so now a sub2k is hard to find but when they start making them not as much.

Expect to pay new prices for used guns if you dont want to wait forever. the demand is high and the supply low as with most keltec's

gun is not set up for an optic and not designed to use one.. They can be mounted but ruin the portabilty(folding) aspect of the gun.

Head to KTOG.org and read.

the front sight is the weak point being plastic with plastic blade inside. It can easily be replaced with a hipoint 995 metal sight if you have a dremel and can tie your shoes(and still fold).

Buy a glock model(cheap available mags) and enjoy it they are awesome.
 
I'll agree with the other's posts about the Subbie.
I have a 9mm and it is a fantastic!

A great bug out gun.

Lateck,
 
The only problems I experienced were minor. One was poor feeding, but that was due to knockoff glock happysticks. The other issue is that the POI is below the front sight's adjustability range.
 
Mine is a 40. Bought it for the ability to fold and fit in a backpack.
Now that I have it - it is just plain fun to shoot!
 
Picked up a new one at a gun show a few weeks ago in 9mm
He wanted $350 and I talked him down to $320 because it takes the S&W mags.
I have since found that Beretta 92 mags, Ruger P series mags and probably some others can be easily modified to fit, and they work great.
Mine is dead on accurate, at least out to about 50 yards.
Haven't tried it further yet.
As hard as they are to find around here, I wouldn't part with it.:D
 
I really should have got a KelTec instead of that POS HiPoint I had. Probably would have kept it, especially with the Glock configuration.

You know Taurus is coming out with a carbine too, right?
 
I have one designed to take Glock 19 magazines.

As a fun range toy and plinker it's great. As a defensive tool it is found wanting.

Biker
 
BikerRN said:
As a fun range toy and plinker it's great. As a defensive tool it is found wanting.
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What don't you like about it as a defensive tool? Something specific about the KelTec, or do you have more general problems with pistol-caliber carbines? I've been considering something of the sort for home defense, so I'm curious.
 
i researched them a great deal and almost bought one, it didnt take glock mags and it was .40 so i passed. still looking for the right one. A: 9mm is cheap and out of a rifle barrel will be acceptible for small game/self defence. B: glock mags in 9mm hold as much as 33 rounds ! i am not a glock guy nor do i shoot 9mm yet but i am eventually going to have a Glock 17(full sized 9mm i think) and sub 2000 (glock 9mm mags) as a pair of go to guns for the inevitable shtf situation that the wife and 13 yr old daughter can handle.
 
I've had one for a couple of months now. Got the Glock 17 model as I carry a 19 or 26 daily, but use a G17 mag for my spare.

I've zeroed mine at 10yds for home defense range, but it will still do head shots at 30yds.

I keep mine folded in a laptop case or day pack when I carry it in my vehicle, and it can go in the office or almost anywhere else.
 
So does anybody know what kind of muzzle velocity those things achieve? I can't help but think it's got to be faster than a pistol-sized barrel, raising the energy level as well ...
Anyone?
 
Since this discussion piqued my interest, I've been doing a little research, and I've found that, as expected, muzzle velocity for both 9mm (over 1500fps) and .40 (over 1200fps) is a significant margin better than when shot from a pistol (data found is consistent across multiple sources). Not a carry weapon, unless you wear a trenchcoat, but would be awesome for a truck rifle, no? For unexpected varmints/zombies/thugs, it could nicely fill a certain niche.

As to BikerRN's comment, I can only assume he/she was referring to the gun's carry-ability. But then, I don't have one, so what do I know ...?
 
I guess the difference would be that they're getting that kind of velocity from normal loads, not +P+. Now I'm no expert - I'm just going by what what I've found on the interweb - but the published muzzle velocities of most 9mm ammo is between 1100-1300 fps.
 
I'd love to get one of these...

But I'd be torn between this and an SU16. You see, I don't have any Glock, Beretta, or S&W magazines. May as well have the stronger round then, right?
 
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