Kel Tec P-11 9mm autoloader.

bullfrog99

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With a little TLC can this sows ear be turned into a good carry gun? it seems a great little number, being only marginally bigger then a ppk and yet carrying 50% more firepower than that same gun and being 30% lighter. I think it could be pretty good but i figured i'de ask. How do you kel tec owners feel about your gun? hows the recoil? accuracy, etc.
 
I like mine a lot. Small, lightweight and reliable. A few need a little buffing to make them 100% reliable, but for a gun costing in the low $200s, it is well worth the time. Be sure to keep the slide rails and hammer/slide interface lightly greased. Some find the trigger shoe helps the long trigger pull, I have that and the grip extender. Both available from Kel-Tec:

http://www.kel-tec.com

Go to these 2 links for good info.

http://www.goldenloki.com

Go to the P-11 link. See the "lubrication guide" and "reliability preparation" links.

http://www.ktog.org

See the "Tec Werks" link
 
I like mine, too. I have a chrome slide and barrel, and for some reason it feels tighter than the blued I had on previously.

Great carry gun, and yes, I turned mine into quite a shooter with a minimum of elbow grease. I also have the trigger shoe, extended mag floorplate, Handall, Jr. and I put a rudimentary (pencil eraser) trigger stop on it as well. I agree with Alamo. Check the website for tips. Recoil is snappy, especially with +p, and the accuracy, for it's purpose, is plenty good.

Also, should your KelTec require service, parts or accessories, their staff is first rate.
 
I like mine. It is compact, light, and reliable. I wish the trigger pull were not quite so heavy, but I guess you can't have everything. I would avoid the P40. I have one of those also, and have had lots of reliability problems with it. KelTec is a good company, so I plan to return the P40 so they can see if they can get it working better for me. But the P11 (9mm) is great. I did get the hard chrome upgrade ($20 I think, direct from Keltec). I highly recommend this - excellent corrosion resistance and durability for very low cost. Looks nice as well.

Doug
 
minor tweeking

Mine has been completely reliable and I just passed 10,000 rds:D
I polished the feed ramp, added the grip extender, a Pachmayr slip on grip (couldn't find a Hogue, and I'm very impatient), the pocket clip and some 22# recoil springs from Wolf. Now she's as gentle as a kitten. She sleeps beside me on my night stand, and rides around all day on my right hip. Best $229 I ever spent.
 
I like mine. It is more accurate than I expected with careful, aimed fire. The trigger bears getting used to, but with practice it is certainly capable of doing the job.
 
I like both of mine... accurate enough for it's intended use, and mild enough recoil that split times don't suffer too badly.
 
i like mine, minus the minor feed problems that are now corrected. i have 550 rounds thru it, chrome slide and barrel, pinky exstenstion and carry it all day in a galco sob holster. next on the list of things is a trigger shoe
 
They're great little guns, but not for everybody. (I think they're much, much better than the similar Taurus line.)

I carried mine for two years as a primary CC weapon.

Accurate, durable, reliable.

The only problem I had was that I could never shoot it as well, under pressure, as I could when punching paper targets.

(For example: the first time I tried it in IDPA competition, I shot a LOT worse than when using other guns. The long, double-action, heavy trigger can be difficult. The short sight radius is an issue, too. The things that make it a good CCW gun also make it more difficult to shoot well.)

I later stumbled across a Star Firestar Plus in a pawnshop. Similar size, similar capacity (10 round, double-stack, with 13 round mags available). A little heavier, but not much (because the Firestar Plus guns have alloy frames rather than stell). But an excellent trigger! (Single action, rather than DAO.)

The first local IDPA match I tried after buying it, I had the best time. Quite a difference from the Kel-Tec.

The problem with Star Firestars (plus or not) is that they're no longer imported, and parts may eventually prove to be a problem. (Most of the parts that are likely to break, however, can be fabricated by a competent gunsmith.)

Is the Kel-Tec a good gun. You bet. But try one before you buy, and decide if you're up to the effort of making yourself proficient. Just shooting targets is NOT the same as using the gun under stress. Some folks will love it and do well with it. I loved it, but didn't do that well.
 
Bought a used but like-new-in-box P11 for $150--shoots great. Wife & kids (all have CCWs) don't like it because of heavy trigger pull. I need to get the belt clip for it.
 
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