Kel-Tec 9mm

gunnut

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I would like to buy one but I do not know if they are worth the money.They look like they are pretty good, but looks don't make it reliable.
 
Have one I bought to learn how things work. Total disassembly, "fluff 'n' buff," etc. Fun to work on. Also a great performer. Just about the smallest, lightest, full capacity (10+1) 9mm on the market. I've heard both Mas Ayoob and Greg Hamilton speak highly of them. Good bang for the buck, as it were. I'm very happy with mine.

Check out http://www.ktog.org

Check out the "Always gun" thread on this forum as well.



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Worth the money???

I paid 210 for mine NIB (though they generally go slightly higher). I question whether you can get more gun for $210, large or small. Think about that. It's an excellent value.

Value aside, it's an excellent gun. Granted it's not all that accurate due to the DAO trigger and short barrel, and the fit and finish isn't great, but with some practice I'm sure I'll be able to get my groups tighter. It packs a whole lot of firepower into a nice sized package. Comfortable, easy to carry (although I'm having trouble finding an ankle holster), easy to take down, reliable, etc. Buy one, you'll like it.
 
Hi guys i had a Kel Tec 9mm with a stainless slide for 2 years. I loved that gun but i traded it toward something else. It always fed everything i put through it,and once i got use to the trigger it shot rather well for something so small.I bought the factory grip extender for mine and used a S&W 15 round mag for it. Lots of firpower for it's size and weight. Also with it's polymer frame and stainless slide it is pretty rust resistent. Hope this helps, 45automan
 
I've had mine for about a year and I love it. It has only failed to feed one time (on a Winchester Silvertip while breaking it in). No problems since then. Not likely to win any marksmanship awards with it due to the heavy trigger pull, but out to 15 yards it will shoot pretty decent groups when I do my part. For the money, I don't think you can go wrong.
 
The gun is a great value. I've had one for several years. Inherently accurate. Very accurate. If you can really take your time to pull the trigger.

Its hard as hell to shoot well, under pressure.

The trigger is hard to get used to, even with all of the necessary refinements. (I shoot a lot in IDPA, and have tried mine in IDPA matches. I do much better with any other gun.)

I've quit carrying mine, and carry a Star Firestar Plus, instead. Similar size, similar capacity, 8 oz. heavier. A helluva lot easier to shoot well. (I had top time at one local IDPA match shooting the Star. Never came close with the P-11.)
 
I found that mine points well. I could hit a metallic silhouette every time at about 50ft while concentrating on the ejecting empties. P11 points well. The trigger is a bit heavy but smoother than many .38 snubbies I have fired.
 
gunnut, I've got a P11 for CCW. So far, it is reliable and handles different brands of 115gr FMJ just fine. I carry it with 124gr Hydrashoks which also feed well. I installed the higher rear sight, available in a kit from Kel-Tec, because mine shot a little low. Seems to be OK now. Also installed a grip extension on the magazine. I polished the feed ramp with some 600 grit sandpaper because I had one failure to feed with an old hollow point reload. Since polish job, no problems. Getting accustomed to the long DAO trigger pull will require a little practice. For what the P11 was designed to do, I think it does a good job. doctor j
 
I had two of the first stainless ones when they first came out. Had numerous misfires from both guns. Maybe they have improved, but I would be afraid to depend on one.
 
I have two stainless P-11s (and one P-32), one is below s/n 9,000 and the other is above s/n 30,000. Both are reliable (without the KTOG fluff and buff), accurate and easy to carry/conceal.

Both of mine have the factory trigger shoe installed and the carry gun also has PT night sights and the factory belt clip.

Good guns IMO.

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Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
 
I have scores of guns.
If I had to pick one, it would be the P11.
Not my favorite to shoot, but my favorite to carry.

WIth +P++ handloads, it kicks something awful.
 
With both a 9mm P11 and .40cal P40 to choose from, is there any advantage to moving "up" to the P40 as opposed to staying with the 9mm? I've other 9mm weapons and lots of ammo. A .40 would introduce yet another cartridge, whereas a P11 would share ammo that I already have. For a one pound weapon, Does the .40 offer any defensive advantage from a one pound weapon? Obviously I'd rather stay with 9mm, but I'd hate to regret not getting the P40 when both it and the P11 seem so similar. The P40 seems to have a tad longer barrel. The ammo is heavier (though slower) but the energy is about the same as the 9mm. http://www.fiocchiusa.com/catalog/centerfire.html

What am I missing here?
 
Get the p-11, then if you still crave .40, you can easily add a conversion kit. Many of the KTOGers prefer the 9mm, indicating the .40 kicks too much. I don't know, because I have never tried the p-40. I like the P-11 fine and the p-32 finer.
I do shoot .40 in full size guns, so I am curious about the P-40 conversion myself.

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ChuteTheMallGawdSortaMount
 
Solitar: "...is there any advantage to moving "up" to the P40 as opposed to staying with the 9mm?"

None that I can think of. :D

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Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ChuteThMallGawdSortaMount:
Many of the KTOGers prefer the 9mm, indicating the .40 kicks too much. I don't know, because I have never tried the p-40. I like the P-11 fine and the p-32 finer.
I do shoot .40 in full size guns, so I am curious about the P-40 conversion myself.

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I started out with a P40. A trip to the range and 40 rounds through the gun was enough to convince me that the .40 is just too much gun in too small a package. Traded it in for the 9mm P11 and have no regrets.
 
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