Keep your finger out of the trigger until you're ready to fire...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC5nh172Dt4

I'm betting that the firearm used was a Glock.

I like watching videos like this to combat any laziness with safety on my part. Also if I ever get any stupid ideas, I review videos like these and then afterwards I think "Ehhh... maybe I'll pass on that idea."

(Edit by staff: Profanity warning (although I'd probably be cussing too ;))
 
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In the early 70's I/we were taught to place the trigger finger on the trigger as you drew your weapon. 40 years later It's still a hard habit to break, and I have to remind myself not to do so at the start of every range session. I now realize that not placing the trigger finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot is an EXCELLENT safety rule.
 
I would put money on that holster being a "SERPA" type holster. I always wondered why they didn't put the release button up about the frame.

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IMHO it doesn't matter what the holster or the gun was, everybody should follow Rule No.3 ALWAYS. Your finger is your best safety.
 
OK, so I was wrong about the Glock.

The Glock is like that kid who gets caught stealin 2 times and then after that - he is the first one they look at whenever anything come up missing.

But - for this to be a 1911, I don't see him flip off a safety, so he's carrying it cocked and unlocked? Uh.... there's yet another safety lesson in here somewhere.
 
Oh I guess he's saying that when he went to push down on the holster release he pushed down on the Kimber safety.

Maybe this is a good argument for training with just whatever your primary weapon is?

If you're going to fire different pistols at the range that's one thing, but do you really need to train fast draw "from retention" with multiple models?
 
I have to admit, my first thought was "What a retard". So when I read it was Tex Grebner I was really puzzled. After hearing his explanation about it, I have to agree that he has a point. Negligent discharges happen, even to the best.
 
old bear is correct,,,

In the early 70's I/we were taught to place the trigger finger on the trigger as you drew your weapon.
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That's why all of my holster patterns from that era,,,
Have cutouts to expose the trigger.

Even in the early 1970's Air Force training sessions,,,
We were taught to "engage the trigger" at draw .

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I never was taught to put the finger on the trigger while drawing, either in the army or police dept.

I went to my first instructors course in 1976, FBI's LEO Firearms Instructor Development course. We were taught then to put your finger on the trigger AS YOU BROUGHT THE GUN ONTO THE TARGET.

Anyway this topic was discussed in General firearms section here.

I have a Blackhawk CQC holster for my Beretta. You cannot put your finger on the trigger until the gun is removed from the holster.

No way in hell can you blame the holster.

Two things according to the video. He disengaged the safety as the gun started out of the holster, and he put his finger in the trigger as it came out.

If he skipped either of the two things (assuming the safety worked) we wouldn't be discussing this.

Mainly the finger in the trigger before he's on target. On most ranges and every match or clinic I have any thing to do with, that alone would get you kicked off the range.

Its SHOOTER ERROR anyway you look at it.
 
It's a training issue any way you cut it.

1) Keep your finger off of the trigger

2) Training with multiple weapons and equipment causes confused muscle memory and decreases your proficiency with any single weapon system.
 
2) Training with multiple weapons and equipment causes confused muscle memory and decreases your proficiency with any single weapon system.
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I disagree with that one too. Keeping your finger off the trigger works with any gun, rifle, pistol, revolver, machine gun.

In fact all the 4 Basic Firearm Safety rules relate to every type weapon.
 
Oh gosh - here is the previous thread

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And Grebner talking about it:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455923
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Yep. Sorry COunt, but the other thread has over 100 posts and is going strong. I'd merge the two as this is a worthy thread, but with that many replies in both that one and this, it would result in mass confusion.

Please continue the discussion in the other thread in General Handguns, as I have to close this one.
 
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