I agree with Zundfolge...If you are going to buy the P series Kahr...you are going to but the worst of the bunch. The beauty of the Kahr is in the stainless steel frame. I handled a P-9 yesterday at the gunstore and it felt terrible in my hand. It is considerably thinner in the grip than the K series. I have a K-9 Elite 98 and think it is perhaps the finest semi-auto I have ever owned second only to my Kimber 1911. And that statement is coming from someone who has owned Glocks, HKs, Colts, Para Ordnance, Berettas, Sigs, S&Ws, and Rugers.