john mccain offers $50/hr to pick lettuce..

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aspen1964

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..again mccain looks disdainfully down his nose at fellow Americans..I wish the Vietnamese would have kept him there...where he wouldn't be able to further the decline of America's future because of wrong-way political stances...don't trust this 'man'...
 
The story on the news today said 30% of all construction is now done by illegals. You know the jobs Americans don't want:rolleyes:

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model 25 said:
The story on the news today said 30% of all construction is now done by illegals. You know the jobs Americans don't want.
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Any minute now, Jammer Six is due to show up telling us all how great it is for America that we have illegals to do the work that Americans can't or won't do, and that it benefits All Of America for them to be here....
 
Why, you hungry? :barf:

In other news, the contractors in this area can't find enough of any kind of people. Everybody is looking for help. Last summer two of my neighbors had their houses painted by two American-born dishwashers they heard about somewhere. The guys arrived day after day for weeks on end by motorscooter. They pretty much worked part-time for nothing and did a very good job.

John

edited to add: The economy around here is still booming and unemployment is low, low, low.
 
Back in the 70s a good friend and his wife along with one of their three kids was killed by drunken illegals while driving in Idaho. I have watched the carnage for years and years as those who are illegal to be here have killed many Americans.

Just recently a couple protecting a neighbors house were gunned down by illegals during a breakin. 5 kids were killed on spring break by a drunken illegal driver. Two nuns in Klamath falls were raped and one murdered by an illegal.

It goes on as people I have know all my life are having real trouble with medical cost because the illegals use the system and do not pay their bills so those who have worked and saved end up paying. How many Americans die each year because they can't afford the service or lose everything they worked for?

How many kids get ruined from the drug trafficers? Or die from it?


If there are no laws to be enforced to stop this carnage then there are no laws in this country period.

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Like many of our elected representatives - millionaire McCain can afford to buy lettuce if those picking it are paid $50 and hour.
 
It's not so much that Americans don't want these jobs, it's more like our standards of living are so high that we turn our nose up at low-wage jobs.
 
So which do we do?
We can allow American companies to hire illegals for $.50 an hour thus outsourcing our own domestic agriculture jobs or we can force them to hire Americans at minimum wage, thus raising our cost of living.

Which is it gonna be?
 
So which do we do?
We can allow American companies to hire illegals for $.50 an hour thus outsourcing our own domestic agriculture jobs or we can force them to hire Americans at minimum wage, thus raising our cost of living.
Which is it gonna be?
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The logical fallacy is that there are two choices. Actually there is a third choice which meets the needs of most citizens. The third choice is to abolish government farm subsidies in the form of EBT cards (the modern food stamp program). After a short period of turmoil (I'd estimate no more than a couple of months, just long enough for seeds to start coming up) there would be a huge abundance of produce at fair prices. Citizens would suddenly find home gardens to be both profitable and good for the community, especially once Uncle Sugar stops giving them free food.

Of course this would mean that big farms would become less profitable so corporations might have to 'divest' themselves of hundreds of thousands of acres of excess land.

There are those of us who remember what life was like before the welfare state and before vegetables were trucked from Kali. We recall that the 'poor' people had a healthier diet and rates of idleness-related diseases like depression and type 2 diabetes were lower. We also recall fuller employment and a cost of living which included $0.37 gas, $.15 hamburgers, $1500 cars.

Not to mention mail order guns and enough family farms left so that anyone had relatives who welcomed them to come hunting and fishing.

Back O/T I heard the sound clip of McCain claiming that Americans were not strong enough nor capable enough to actually pick produce even at $50 per hour. I would suppose that we need to change the system so that it would be profitable for them invest in family farms and learn how.
 
So which do we do?
We can allow American companies to hire illegals for $.50 an hour thus outsourcing our own domestic agriculture jobs or we can force them to hire Americans at minimum wage, thus raising our cost of living.

Which is it gonna be?
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Neither. I've heard the idea of putting prisoners to work. You could pay them a decent wage and solve the worker shortage all at the same time. I bet many convicts would like a program like that.
 
Okay, there's a couple more ideas (probably a whole lot more ideas floating around out there) but these are the only two they're actually considering.
So which is it gonna be?

And Steel,
McCain is the only guy the Republicans have that stands a chance against Hillary according to every poll I've seen. Would you rather have 4 years of her?
 
The illegal alien problem is a lot more complex than just "rounding them up and shipping them out." Anecdotes about illegals' committing crime don't go too far with me. We all know which demographic commits an overwhelming majority of crime in this country, and nothing radical is done about that problem. Why? Votes. Political power. Collective societal guilt. It really is that simple.

Here's a fact with which our politicos have to deal: An illegal couple can engender 10 legals, all of whom are American citizens and who will be eligible to vote. Taking radical action against the parents of 10 voters isn't something that's going to be too easy for legislators in the border states to swallow.

Maybe some illegals are paid $.50 per hour; that's not the case around here, where illegals are paid pretty well. It's not just that the illegals (we're really talking about Mexicans, aren't we?) take jobs that Americans can't/won't do, but they, by-and-large, do those jobs very well. When my son's house was being finished, I was afforded the opportunity to observe a crew of Mexican painters finishing the interior of my son's house. Got to say that I was truly impressed with how they worked...no small talk, no b.s., no lollygagging around. They got down to business and did their business well and in a hurry.

Another problem with the "Final Solution" (mass exportation) proposed by some dimwits is how to implement such a plan. Exactly how would the government transport 11M people, many of whom are the parents and grandparents of American citizens who vote?

I don't have the answers, but at least I recognize the questions. Could be one of those historical problems that has no good answer...kind of like the long-term results of American slavery. Could ultimately be the downfall of Western Civilization. Who knows? I don't!
 
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