John Kerry's Assault weapons ban

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kelsey

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During the debate tonight John Kerry stated he would have fought to keep the AWB alive and well as means of preventing assault weapons from being in the hands of criminal. He then went on an example journey of his hunting trip with a sheriff in which the sheriff pointed to a former drug house and stated, "see that house? We did a drug bust there last year and they guy had an AK47 laying on the bed." &}

John Kerry would reinstate the ban to prevent such occurances.


DOES THAT DUMB***T REALIZE LAST YEAR WAS DURING THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN??? :-:


Does America realize that his assault weapon story only illustrates its failure to control criminals?

The damn thing sunseted in September. If it failed then, it would fail now.

Go home John Kerry. The hunters aren't buying it. :<rt:

:barf:
 
on another note, the AWB did not cover all ak-47s. Some were excluded by grandfather clauses, and many more were excluded because an ak-47 is only defined as an assault weapon (according to ATF ruling) if it has:
A removable ammo source (aka magazine)
A pistol grip

and one of the following
Folding stock
Bayonet Lug
Flash Suppressor
 
Pre written script:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040914-123037-7051r.htm

Kerry hits Bush for lapse of gun ban
By Stephen Dinan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published September 14, 2004

*"Let me be very clear. I support the Second Amendment. I am a gun owner. I am a hunter. I've been a hunter since I was a kid. But I'm also, forever, a law-enforcement officer. And I know as a gun owner, as a hunter, I never thought about going hunting with a military assault rifle," Mr. Kerry said.
****Mr. Kerry also said Mr. Bush and congressional Republicans are playing games by blaming each other for the ban lapse.
****"The House says, through Tom DeLay, [the measure] isn't going to get sent to [the president], but if he asks for it we'll send it to him. Well, why didn't you ask?" Mr. Kerry said.
Mr. Kerry himself told a story yesterday illustrating the easy availability of the weapons despite the federal ban.
****He recalled pheasant hunting with a sheriff in Iowa recently. As they were walking through a field, the senator said, the sheriff pointed to a house nearby and said, "We did a drug bust in that house about a week ago. And we came in early in the morning. And the person that they were arresting was asleep, lying in bed. And lying right on the floor, right beside that drug dealer, was an AK-47."


earlier version of the script:
http://www.iptv.org/iowapress/transcripts/3109.cfm
10-24-03

Kerry: GUN SAFETY. GUN SAFETY, YEAH. WELL, I'M A FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. I RAN ONE OF THE LARGEST DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICES IN AMERICA, ONE OF THE TEN LARGEST COUNTIES. I'VE WORKED HARD TO DELIVER JUSTICE, PUT PEOPLE BEHIND BARS. AND EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN AMERICA, ALL THE POLICE CHIEFS, ALL OF THE LOCAL POLICE HAVE BELIEVED FOR YEARS WE SHOULD KEEP ASSAULT WEAPONS OUT OF THE MARKETPLACE IN AMERICA. WE DON'T SELL ASSAULT WEAPONS IN THIS COUNTRY. WE SHOULDN'T. AND AS A HUNTER, I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT HUNTING WITH AN AK-47. I BELIEVE IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WITH RIGHTS COME RESPONSIBILITIES. ONE OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES IS NOT TO HAVE ASSAULT WEAPONS. HOWARD DEAN, ON THE OTHER HAND, WHILE WE WERE FIGHTING TO GET RID OF ASSAULT WEAPONS, HOWARD DEAN WAS GOING TO THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION AND SEEKING THEIR ENDORSEMENT, EVEN AS THEY OPPOSED AND HE OPPOSED ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND REASONABLENESS IN HOW WE TRY TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY SAFER. I THINK THAT'S A VALUE ISSUE. I ALSO THINK IT'S A SPECIAL INTEREST ISSUE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GIVE IN TO SPECIAL INTERESTS IN THIS COUNTRY. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE CANDIDATE OF THE NRA, MIKE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REPRESENT IT. AND PRESIDENT BUSH, INCIDENTALLY, RESIGNED FROM THE NRA BECAUSE THE NRA CALLED FEDERAL AGENTS JACKBOOTED THUGS. AT THAT VERY MOMENT HOWARD DEAN WAS SEEKING THEIR ENDORSEMENT. I THINK THAT'S WRONG.

Glover: ONE OF THE THINGS GOVERNOR DEAN SAID IN RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENTS WAS HE ADMITS THAT HIS POSITION ON GUN CONTROL IS NOT THE TYPICAL DEMOCRATIC POSITION, BUT HE SAYS DEMOCRATS MAY WELL HAVE LOST THE LAST ELECTION BECAUSE OF THEIR POSITION ON GUN CONTROL IN SOME IMPORTANT STATES LIKE TENNESSEE AND WEST VIRGINIA.

Kerry: WOW, THERE'S A POSITION OF PRINCIPLE. LET'S PLAY POLITICS WITH GUNS. YOU DON'T PLAY POLITICS WITH THESE THINGS, MIKE. PEOPLE WANT A PRESIDENT WHO IS GOING TO STAND UP FOR COMMON SENSE. COMMON SENSE IS IF YOU WANT TO HANDLE AN ASSAULT WEAPON, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF PLACES IN THE U.S. MILITARY FOR YOU. YOU CAN GO TO BAGHDAD. YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE ELSE. WE SHOULDN'T SELL THOSE GUNS IN AMERICA. YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN I WAS AT THAT PHEASANT SHOOT THIS AFTERNOON, THE SHERIFF -- I WAS WITH PAUL FITZGERALD AND WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, STEVE HOLMES, AND THEY POINTED TO A HOUSE THAT WAS RIGHT LODGED IN NEAR HIS FARM THAT THEY JUST RAIDED AND SHUT DOWN. IT WAS A METHAMPHETAMINE HOUSE, A CRACK HOUSE. AND THE GUY THEY ARRESTED THERE WHEN THEY RAIDED IT HAD A LOADED AK-47 BESIDE HIS BED. NOW, I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, I'M FOR GETTING RID OF -- BANNING -- I'M FOR BANNING ASSAULT WEAPONS. THEY SHOULDN'T BE SOLD IN AMERICA. IF HOWARD DEAN THINKS HE WANTS TO GO OUT TO AMERICA AND SELL SOME KIND OF FANCY POSITION, THAT'S, I THINK, NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY VALUES. I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE AMERICAN VALUES, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE CONNIVING POLITICALLY TO UNDERMINE PRINCIPLES.

Yepsen: WELL, SENATOR, YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS HUNTING TRIP. IT BEGS THE QUESTION HOW MANY OF OUR PHEASANTS DID YOU SHOOT TODAY.

Kerry: I MANAGED TO TAKE TWO WONDERFUL ONES, AND I'M APPRECIATIVE. AND MY WIFE IS SO EXCITED. SHE SAID, "GOD, YOU'VE GOT TO BRING THAT HOME."

Yepsen: AND YOU BOUGHT THE APPROPRIATE LICENSES, I ASSUME.

Kerry: YES, SIR. I BOUGHT IT OUT OF STATE, A BIG WHOPPING FEE LICENSE. BUT WHAT A PRIVILEGE. I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, YOUR LAND IS SO BEAUTIFUL, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
 
I hope we all noted that BUSH admitted his SUPPORT of the Assault Weapons Ban.

That is as wrong as fighting for it. Both of them are fools who obviously don't even know what the ban was or what it included.
 
One difference is, Bush was honest about his stance. Kerry was lying about his stance. Kerry has never missed an opportunty to vote WITH the antis. He's got an A rating fom Handgun Control, and an F rating from the NRA.

And let's remember three significant victories happened under Bush's administration:

1) Early in his presidency, the UN had its Council on Small Arms. They wanted to pass a resolution favoring registration or banning. The (new) US rep. utterly refused, and the final resolution basically just deplored gun violence. Had the original resolutions passed, it would;ve given the antis and Liberals a great tool.

2) Ashcroft went on record that the 2A is an individual right.

3) The AWB expired.

Personally, I think NONE of those would've happened under a Gore Presidency. And I think none would happen under a Kerry Presidency.

Bush signed CCW in Texas. What has Kerry EVER done for gun owners?
 
SCHIEFFER: Mr. President, new question, two minutes.

You said that if Congress would vote to extend the ban on assault weapons, that you'd sign the legislation, but you did nothing to encourage the Congress to extend it. Why not?

BUSH: Actually, I made my intentions -- made my views clear. I did think we ought to extend the assault weapons ban, and was told the fact that the bill was never going to move, because Republicans and Democrats were against the assault weapon ban, people of both parties.
I believe law-abiding citizens ought to be able to own a gun. I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere to make sure that guns don't get in the hands of people that shouldn't have them.
But the best way to protect our citizens from guns is to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns. And that's why early in my administration I called the attorney general and the U.S. attorneys and said: Put together a task force all around the country to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns. And the prosecutions are up by about 68 percent -- I believe -- is the number.
Neighborhoods are safer when we crack down on people who commit crimes with guns.
To me, that's the best way to secure America.

SCHIEFFER: Senator?

KERRY: I believe it was a failure of presidential leadership not to reauthorize the assault weapons ban.
I am a hunter. I'm a gun owner. I've been a hunter since I was a kid, 12, 13 years old. And I respect the Second Amendment and I will not tamper with the Second Amendment.
But I'll tell you this. I'm also a former law enforcement officer. I ran one of the largest district attorney's offices in America, one of the ten largest. I put people behind bars for the rest of their life. I've broken up organized crime. I know something about prosecuting.
And most of the law enforcement agencies in America wanted that assault weapons ban. They don't want to go into a drug bust and be facing an AK-47.
I was hunting in Iowa last year with a sheriff from one of the counties there, and he pointed to a house in back of us, and said, "See the house over? We just did a drug bust a week earlier, and the guy we arrested had an AK-47 lying on the bed right beside him."
Because of the president's decision today, law enforcement officers will walk into a place that will be more dangerous. Terrorists can now come into America and go to a gun show and, without even a background check, buy an assault weapon today.
And that's what Osama Bin Laden's handbook said, because we captured it in Afghanistan. It encouraged them to do it.
So I believe America's less safe.
If Tom DeLay or someone in the House said to me, "Sorry, we don't have the votes," I'd have said, "Then we're going to have a fight."
And I'd have taken it out to the country and I'd have had every law enforcement officer in the country visit those congressmen. We'd have won what Bill Clinton won.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135380,00.html
 
"See the house over? We just did a drug bust a week earlier, and the guy we arrested had an AK-47 lying on the bed right beside him."
Click to expand...

I'm surprised that no one else has noticed that the gun was just lying on the bed next to him. The gun wasn't actually used.
 
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