Iver Johnson Target Sealed 8 .22 - gunsmith?

fallen4shell

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I know you all are probably going to tell me that this gun is not even worth fooling with, and you are probably right. It is the first revolver I ever bought, and I did not pay that much money for it. Not a bad little gun (though I have nothing to compare it with really).

Anyway, the main problem that I am having is that the cylinder is "out of time"....with some pretty significant slop in total lockup mode. My first question is how dangerous is it to shoot it this way? I have put several hundred rounds through this gun (I usually shoot about 200 per trip to the range) since I bought it and it was an old and worn out gun from the get-go. Never had much of a problem with it as of yet...but I SURE don't want it to blow up on me.

I also noticed when I took it apart to clean it that the trigger return spring (I guess that what it would be called?) has apparentely been lost or broken or something because it has been replaced with some sort of bent wire arangement...aka cobbled. The trigger does return, though the trigger pull in double action leaves ALOT to be desired....I am thinking this stiff wire return spring might have a little to do with that. I suppose it is better than having to manually reset the trigger every time though.

Parts for this gun are near to completely non-existent. I HAPPENED to find a replacement cylinder and pin for it online for like $20 that "needs final fitting and adjustment". IF this cylinder is fitted well and timed correctly won't that fix my "slop" problem without having to buy a new little "hand" (or whatever it's called) Also, is there any chance that I could do this procedure myself...is there a manual or book out there that could tell me how? I know that you all would probably be hesitant to recomment me doing it myself even if there WAS such a book, but I promise not to hold any of you responsible if I end up blowing myself up or something. I trust myself in that if I am NOT sure that I know what I am doing and can do the job right I will not attempt it. That said, I would really LIKE to learn how to do this type of stuff so if there is a means that any of you know of...by all means throw me a bone.

IF not, then my next problem is that there is not competent gunsmith in my area....at least not that I know of. Every gun shop I have been to says that they only know of ONE guy who works on them and I took it to him and he didn't find anything wrong with the gun. To be frank...I am not exactly sure that he is an incompetent gunsmith (he might have just felt that the gun was not worth messing with), but I know his business ethics aren't great and I just don't get a good "vibe" from the guy. Someone who does not respect his customers I don't feel is going to take much pride in his work...IMHO. I would like to take it to someone I know I can trust with it. So can I send it off to get something like that done...if so to whom? And approx. how much money am I looking at spending?
 
Sir William

I am in Batesville, AR. Area code 72501. I went to all of the above sites and didn't find any replacement parts for my revolver.
 
That is not suprising. What you may have to do is buy a few of similar IJs to collect enough parts. I saw a 100% Target Sealed 8 at Dixie. You may consider buying it and keeping some of your revolver for spare parts. IJs, H&Rs and NEF revolvers have some parts that will interchange. You may need to keep haunting those sites and see what shows up over time. Gun show junk boxes are another source of parts. Parts revolvers may vary in price from free to $85.00.
 
The only problem I see with buying additional used revolvers for parts is that they are likely going to have the same problem that mine does. I have already found the cylinder that I think will fix MOST of my problem if I just knew how, or knew someone who knew how to fit it and time it properly.
 
IIRC, those Target Sealed 8s were pretty closely toleranced and hand fitted. I would try sending your revolver to a gunsmith first. Parts would have to be handfitted. Expect $300.00 or more in labour for just that. Your parts and revolver might be easier and cheaper to repair. IOWs, the newer parts might cost you more in the end. The trigger rest springs are fairly generic and you need an oversized one. Dixie has these for euro revolvers and they are not shown as any brand. Contact www.coalcreekarmory.com and speak to their in house gunsmith.
 
Sorry I can't help you with the parts. The Target Sealed 8 Was the first gun I ever fired. My Dad, Grandad and several Uncles went shooting and took me along. After awhile they asked if I wanted to try it. OH YEAH!! It was a great day that I'll never forget. I still have that gun in the safe. :D Guess I'll go pull it out and have a look at an old friend. Thanks for the post, it brought back many good memories.
 
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