I've got a serious problem....

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ojibweindian

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Here's the deal. I'm involved in a nasty divorce/custody battle for the past several months. Have learned that my soon to be ex-wife, from now on to be referred to as ex, is involved with a man that has french kissed and taken showers with his own daughter. My ex and this guy, according to the little girl, have had several sexual encounters in front of her. This girl, by the way, is four years old.

Also, according to this ***hole's ex-wife and son, he's heavily into marijuana, controlled prescription drugs, and heavy drinking. I suspect that my ex is doing the same thing, too. No proof as of yet.

Also, in the past several days, I have noticed several cars, not local to the neghborhood, have come around. Some looking just like the description of cars that have been noticed at the ex's house.

I've contacted people concerning the things that have happened with the 4 year old girl, and that is being taken care of very sloooooooooly with protective services. What else can I do?

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For God so loved the world that he gave his onlly begoten Son...
 
First, don't take any major action yourself. It won't help and will prolong the fiasco.
Is your attorney aware of everything? Perhaps you need a more aggressive attorney.
Stay on protective services' a**; don't let it ride. Any time you think they are dragging, call.
And, if it is possible, gather all the proof that you can.
Good luck. This is one of the worst situations.
 
You need a private investigator. He'll get you the proof you need to take into court.

Talk to your attorney.

It isn't going to be cheap, but what price for a child's soul, even if it's not your child?

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
You really need to get an investigator ASAP. Can you talk to you child and ask if anything has happened? Tell your lawyer, take your child to a psychologist, it might be good to have noted. I am very worried for you and your child. If someone touched my kid....well you know. Please contact your lawyer and tell him/her the story. You may win full custody if you can prove this. Best of luck you will be in my prayers.

P.S. you can have your lawyer make your ex take a drug test, but do NOT let her know ahead of time. That alone may get your child out of there.
 
Miss,

given the nature of this situation, it would be my advice that Ojib have absolutely NO contact with this girl, his ex, or the father.

If the father & his ex get wind of what Ojib is thinking, they could very easily drop some preemptory sexual assault charges against him.

This is a situation that he needs to adress from LONG RANGE.

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Well, I got the PI awhile back, and he has compiled a good deal of video and photographic evidence of the ex and the cretin together with my kids, and by themselves.

The mother of the four year old has taken her for interviews. My ex's name should be all over the report, if they accurately documented what the little girl said.

Forgot to mention that the ex has had a complaint lodged against her for assault and battery, and is about to have a restraining order served against her. The family of the four year old is wanting to wait on swearing out the warrant for the assualt charge.

MissDemeanors, how can I go about having my lawyer force my ex to undergo drug testing? Can this be done only in your state, or in other states such as Alabama?

All of this stuff I've told y'all, with the exception of the drug and alcohol allegations, has documentation to back it up.
Is there anything else I need to be aware of? The hearing is comming up soon...

Please, pray for my children, and for the four year old, They're in dire need.

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Simple - ask around and find out who the best attorney (you can afford) is. Hire him or her. Then you and the atty will hire a good investigator. Get the dirt and have a trial. You get what you pay for - the more you spend on an atty, the better job you'll get done for you. You can't win custody without evidence of the wrongdoing.
 
Take Bogies advice. If you can discreetly get some media coverage that will put pressure on the authorities to act rapidly.
 
Greetings,

There is no such thing as discreet media coverage. Do not involve the media. Everyone involved will paint you as a nut. The local newspapers in many towns only care about stirring up controversy. Hire the best lawyer (not necessarily the most expensive) you can and then do what your lawyer tells you.

Ledbetter, Esq.

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All of us "good guys" involved in this situation have thought of involving the press. My father has sent feelers out to one of the TV stations in the area. They're not biting too hard on it as of now.

The attorney I hired has a reputation as one of the best in the county where this case is to be tried.

I can't involve protective services concerning my children because there is, as of yet, no evidience that this bastard, or my ex, has done anything to them or in front of them. Also, I don't want to involve protective services directly with my children, if at all possible, because I was told by them that they do all they can to try and keep the children with the custodial parent. Therefore, they are an absolute last resort.

I've had my lawyer supeona (sp?) the DHR report concerning the four year old and the police report concerning the assualt complaint against my ex. The person she assualted is willing to testify at trial.

The four year old's mother and I have done everything we can think of to get our children away from these puss buckets, but I keep thinking that there might be something more we can do legally.

BTW, I have avoided my ex and her slimeball slice of tube steak like the plague. How much longer that will last, I don't know...
 
Sorry I misread this. Mike is right, don't have contact with the child. I really don't know the laws I am not a lawyer but I have talked to one recently. Yes here in IL a spouse can have a lawyer recommend a drug test when children are involved. You are going to have to talk to your lawyer as I am not one and don't want to give you wrong advice. But please do ask about that, if she is using drugs and you can prove it, that will make your case that much stronger. This is really scary and you all are in my prayers, I hope it all works in your favor and those children stay safe. I can't tell you how much I HATE child abusers, I have no tolerance for them what so ever, it makes my stomache turn. I hope the bastage rots.
 
Okay:

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How has this information come to you? If it's only from the ex-wife of the critter, step very carefully. The possibility that she's spinning a falsehood for revenge and/or exaggerating what the child told the detectives -- that's something you don't want to get entangled in.

Is there basis to believe that the abuse has gone further than the kissing and showering? If so, the child needs to go to an emergency room. Most states have laws forcing doctors, nurses, and others to report suspected child abuse. Getting a doctor or nurse involved may kick the investigation into a higher gear.

LawDog

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Lawdog

Those accusations came from the four year old. Her mother, at my advice, took her to protective services to investigate the allegations. The girl has not said anything to indicate penetration has occurred. Her mother has not made that calim, either.

The girl's mother has made recordings of consequent conversations. No leading questions were asked; the tapes back up what has been said.

Other information given to me by the girl's mother concerning the whereabouts and activities of my ex and that bastard have been verified by the PI, so I don't have reason to doubt her credibility.

I guess my biggest concern is, what are my chances, generally speaking, of getting my kids back? And, is there anything else I can do to improve on those chances?
 
Did anyone mention you getting a restraining order against "ex" and her "zero"?

I suggest getting one before they do the same to you, which will make you look like the bad guy. If you do it first, the shoe is on the other foot.

Actually, a good hit man would be so much more effective and just than a lawyer in cases like this, but....

See if you can swing some of the protective services child welfare advocates to your side , thus testify in your behalf with positive spin.
 
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