Is YOUR church gov't approved ?

RH

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France aims at banning 'dangerous' sects
United Press International - June 23, 2000 10:32

PARIS, June 23 (UPI) -- French Justice Minister Elisabeth Guigou says a proposed French law legally defining cults and banning them -- only just approved by the National Assembly -- is a "significant advance for democratic states."

The proposed statute won National Assembly approval Thursday and now needs only the final support of the French Senate before it is enacted. It has the backing of the Socalist-led government of Prime Minister Lionel Jospin. Guigou told French radio today the new law would arm the country with "appropriate legal tools needed to combat cults." The language in the legislation makes "mental manipulation" or brainwashing a criminal offence.

The statute has come under fierce attack by various religious minorities -- most especially the Church of Scientology, which charges the statute as "anti-democratic."

A spokeswoman for the Scientologists in France, Danihle Gounord, said Friday of the new law:

"This is a steep and slippery slope for democracy. ... In western Europe, the only regime so far to pass a law on mental manipulation was the fascist government of Mussolini, in an attempt to get rid of the communists."
Under the proposed new law, courts would have a particular procedure to follow by which groups could be defined as cults and banned and -- significantly -- kept under a ban even if they reform under a new name. A government committee in France has already branded 173 sects as what the called dangerous quasi-religious groups in the country. But both the Church of Scientology and the Unification Church have called such identification fascist, anti-democratic and a breach of basic human rights laws.

According to one recent poll, 73 percent of French people believe sects are a danger to democracy, and 86 percent support banning the likes of such sects as the Church of Scientology or the Order of the Solar Temple.

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Coming to your UN Nation-State soon !

I am baffled how French Socialists have the cojones to voice an opinion of what constitutes an "advance for democratic states" or a "threat to democracy" !?! Ludicrous. But wait, I see now, religious freedom is a "threat to democracy", a clampdown on individual freedom is an "advance for democracy" ... sounds familiar.

I am not endorsing or condemmning Scientology, but just ask yourself how long your church of belief system will withstand gov't bureaucrats scrutiny in this PC universe we live in ?
 
The language in the legislation makes "mental manipulation" or brainwashing a criminal offence.

Guess the socialist govt over there hates competition eh ?
 
It'll never happen here.

We've got this in our constitution, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Uhhh... Er... Ummmm... Just like they'll never take away our guns because we've got this in our constitution, "The right of
the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."


Personal Freedom takes another one on the chin. :(

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I'm not going to mention that Christianity started out as a cult. As did Islam.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>According to one recent poll, 73 percent of French people believe sects are a danger to democracy, and 86 percent support banning the likes of such sects as the Church of Scientology or the Order of the Solar Temple.[/quote]

Translate that into Latin, replace the named sects with Christianity, and I would imagine that the quote would fit right into a Roman Senate speech decrying the new 'sect'.

LawDog

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Don't get me started about cults. I can't stand the crooked bastards. They'll lie cheat and steal their damn asses off to further their money making schemes. The worst is home based in the desert region next to a big salt lake. Biggest crock and bull story going bar none. :(
 
James E,

Would you care to elaborate? As a member of the church you mention, I have not seen such activities, and I've been a member since 1982 (formerly Lutheran).

What gives?
 
I have a bumper sticker on my front bumper.

"Is Your Church BATF Approved?"

I bought it after I watched "Waco:The Rules of Engagement."

Rick
 
I believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. But organized religion and their authorities should be classed as leathal weapons. More people have been killed or screwed over by organized religion...now politics is trying to catch up.

James
 
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