Is this the problem?

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Derek Zeanah

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Still trying to understand the enemy. Would appreciate comments on the following:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The real danger is not the communists. The formal communist party in America has been dead and a subject of ridicule for 45 years. Their work was done, quite successfully, and they had evolved into an empty, easily-ridiculed willing decoy. The seeds were planted when the radical left took over the higher educational system in this country by the middle 30s. That established a self-perpetuating system such that the formal communist party became tangential and irrelevant 20 years later. The real danger became, and is, the unaffiliated descendants of the communists who, like the students of the 60s, were told they were very middle of the road, and believed it, and would laugh in your face if you asked them if they were communists, or like the McNamaras who believed they were superior, intelligent, and sophisticated.

What was established many years ago was the equivalent of a computer virus. The program could be anything, but one which reproduces itself under a different name. The people infected with it don't understand they are infected, but are motivated by a purpose laid down before they were born. They have no idea what they are.

The communist party in the United States has been obsolete for 35 years as a result of the self-replicating system the radical left emplaced in the educational system more than 60 years ago. As nearly as I can determine by attitude polls, voting patterns, and espoused sociopolitical theoretical formulations, 35 percent of the American population believes in nearly everything the communists once believed without being members of, or ever had direct contact with, the communist party. Another 20 percent believe in half of it or aren't sure what they believe. Still another 20 percent are desperately striving to maintain their equilibrium in an increasingly left wing world.
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Is the author correct? If so, what's the cure?


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I stand before Almighty God and I'll say what I have said for years. I will never again soil my responsibility as a voter by voting again for a candidate who turns their back on the fundamental principle of justice by which this nation's freedom lives or dies. --Alan Keyes, 2/2/2000
 
Kocher's work is the only irrefutable analysis of American politics I've ever read. Until someone can refute it, it remains the most accurate theoretical framework for understanding these problems.

The cure requires proper identification of the disease, which is generation upon generation of lunacy disguised as progress.
Once that is done, we can identify nonsense by its proper name, refute our enemies without guilt, intimidation, or hesitation, and bring forth a confrontation: rather like applying a warm compress to a boil to allow it to be lanced with greater ease.

A big part of the problem is that conservatives are trying to include people into the "movement" who belong in insane asylums. Instead of "drawing everyone together" we need to be driving some people out. Until the hard rationality and hard morality which made the USA what it once was is the norm instead of a laughable reminder of an archaic past, we will continue to implode.

Being fun at parties and having a winning TV personality is part of the problem.

Calling a spade a spade and murderous lunacy by its proper name is part of the solution.



[This message has been edited by Munro Williams (edited June 11, 2000).]
 
Nice... Munro

Let us not forget that even in the full blown hard core communist countrys; very few of the populace were/are members of the communist party.

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Sam I am, grn egs n packin

Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
 
Our Socialist education system may be the most dangerous problem because
it replicates itself in so many areas; but there are many “broken” systems -
each of which is a symptom of our problem and a cause of further problems.

Our government, medical system, system of taxation, etc. all show severe
signs of being “broken”. Is this a result of Socialist education or merely
another broken system?

When, and why, did Americans quit being Americans - independent,
self-supporting, etc.? When and why did our government abandon
Constitutional principles in favor of “interpretation”?

Our lost Americanism permitted these broken systems by not holding our
government responsible, by consistently permitting “just a little more control”
and then “a little more” - time after time.

So, my fellow Americans, are we going to perpetuate this broken system,
trying to repair it by doing the same thing over and over that we did to break
it - give it “a little more control”, “just this once”, etc.? Or are we going to fix
it? And how do you propose to fix our lost Americanism with the same poor
Constitutional “carpenters” we currently have as a ruling class?

How do we fix our all-controlling government?
 
The people have realized that in order to obtain wealth, they merely have to vote for the Govt. to relieve the rich of their cash and distribute it to the poor or poorer. In a democracy this is possible, it is not supposed to be possible in the Republic that our founders created.

The Federal income tax and the Amendment that allowed the Senate to be elected by popular vote were the two biggest culprits.

The Fed income tax because it created the mechanism whereby the FedGov could 'legally' redistribute wealth.

The Amendment that allowed Senators to elected by popular vote because it removed the say of the States in the Governing of the nation.

In effect, it removed a whole leg or legislative checks and balances. Where before the legislature was comprised of Representatives (representing the people or the masses) and the Senate (representing the States and their interests) Now the legislature is only representative of the People. In some ways that may not seem so bad. Howeer, we have seen how bad it can be.

When coupled with left-wing, socialist education, the circle is complete. Now you have a legislature only representative of the people, whose goals are to secure wealth for themselves. These people are educated to believe that it should be taken from the wealthy and given to them. The FedGov. complies with their wishes and takes it from the wealthy via Federal Incomce tax and redistributes it to the poorer.

The people also want security. They are educated that the FedGov and/or government at all levels should provide it for them. They vote that it should be so. The price is their liberty. They have been taught that they have none. They are assured that they are protected.

Voila - simple and easy. Just takes some time. When coupled with the liberal media who reinforce all of these beliefs it is unstoppable.

It will not end until the State controls all.

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"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression.
In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains
seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all
must be most aware of change in the air - however slight -
lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
--Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dzeanah:
Still trying to understand the enemy. Would appreciate comments on the following:

Is the author correct? If so, what's the cure?


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Home schooling or some other way to get kids out of public schools.
 
This is a post I wrote responding to the thread "A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT" but some how it seems more apporpiate here. About 45 %
of the way through; this post becomes more appropiate to this thread.


The last time we tried dividing up the states
back in 1860,it was called succession and lead to the American civil war, called the war between the states.
This does not really apply because you guys are talking about a hypothetical experiment;
however, if you were to actually try to implement your hypothetical experiment;
in that case,it would apply directly.

Therefore,your experiment can never be implimented and remains a non reality.

Meerly wishfull thinking.

I comment upon the observance that the United States is getting divided up into
regions where gun owners and conservatives
predominate and regions where liberal anti
gun socialist elitests predominate and make things extreemly tough for gun owners residing in liberal socialist anti gun states.


I have given some though to moving to a pro-gun state.
However, I own land which I would need to sell first which presents quite a difficulty, especially since my land provides
me my income.

Freedom is not free, it is paid for in the blood of hereos and patriots.And failed
patriots are called terrorists, felons,criminals and traitors.Apparent milita (I would say organized, but they really are not organized because if they were ,we would not know of their existance).

Apparant militias are infultrated by FBI
agents and would be the first to be "WACCOED".
Those unwilling or unable to pay the patriot's price for freedom in blood must resign themselves to writing letters to
unresponsive liberal socialist politicians
and telling others about the dangers of the democrat's NWO socialism.

and the republican party is full of defacto
democrat socialists who went to the republican party and registered as republicans.
This gives us the ONE PARTY SYSTEM , The socialist party A-democrats and the socialist party B-republicans.

With this in mind, in Nov elections I am voting for Bush as president and all the rest of the ticket for Libritarians.

This type of split ticket voting, if enough
of it occurs, would result in Bush being elected president and when Bush tries to enact some reasonable republican gun control lite, the gun control lite would be blocked by the pro-gun libertarians in congress.

It is a major shame that republicans no longer support and try to disavow the pro-gun plank in the republican platform.

This is because, since 1960, the public schools have been teaching students a liberal education; that is to say: educating them to be liberal socialists.

It is this socialist mind bending or warping,
occuring in our public schools,that gives socialist party A, the democrats, their
contol of their manufactured sheeple.

Republicans ,if they wish to be elected, feel that they need to abondon their conserative principles and become socialist party B in order to appeal to the socialism indoctronated sheeple.

After public education concludes, the socialist mind warp is enforced through the
liberal socialist biased tv media, so that the sheeple are never free to think for themselves and never exposed to the opposing point of view and ways of thought.

These are my ideas to explain why we find ourselves in the sorry state that we are now in.

Our innocent, unsuspecting and trustfull of
big brother government,
fellow Americans have allowed themseves to
be indoctornated in socialism and are unable to break free of their programing.
 
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