I cant seem to find the info regarding posession of a Mac 10 frame. I have a Mac 10 frame that was made by bending a flat over a mandrel. It has the grip frame also welded and holes drilled. I was originally going to build an open bolt or closed bolt 45 acp gun with BATF approval. But recently a friend told me that he thought the frame was illegal to own and that I have to torch cut it into 3 pieces? At what point is it considered a NFA weapon? I know this forum has the expertise I need. Also, I have a friend with a Powder Springs M 10 frame that does have a serial #, but no records to allow a transfer. Should this be torched too ??? Thanks in advance
Is this legal to own or do I start up my torch?
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goodspeed(TPF)
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Good thing no one knows he lives at 123 Elm st. Springfield Il. 
You can’t make it into an SMG or an open bolt semi.
There are “kits” (- the frame) out there for closed bolt M11’s that would be legal. You might contact http://www.ftfindustries.com/mac_kits.htm and see if they can put anything together for your Mac 10 frame.
There are “kits” (- the frame) out there for closed bolt M11’s that would be legal. You might contact http://www.ftfindustries.com/mac_kits.htm and see if they can put anything together for your Mac 10 frame.
sundance43.5
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That sound outside your house is the black choppers coming to get you.
rabidgoldfish
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Does it have the holes drilled for auto parts or semi parts?
If it has the right set of holes you should be ok. IANAL tho
If it has the right set of holes you should be ok. IANAL tho
David Hineline
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Not taking Californication into account
By federal law frame building is fine untill you put in the holes or parts in the frame that make it a machine gun, open bolt fireing semi autos are also considered a machinegun.
If you build it to accept the full auto parts then you already broke the law.
When you speak of your friends powder springs 45 receiver, is it a machine gun receiver or a semi auto receiver. If machinegun it better find some paper. If an older pre-ban open bolt semi auto receiver then it will have some value, compared to a current production gun.
By federal law frame building is fine untill you put in the holes or parts in the frame that make it a machine gun, open bolt fireing semi autos are also considered a machinegun.
If you build it to accept the full auto parts then you already broke the law.
When you speak of your friends powder springs 45 receiver, is it a machine gun receiver or a semi auto receiver. If machinegun it better find some paper. If an older pre-ban open bolt semi auto receiver then it will have some value, compared to a current production gun.
David, THANK YOU! At last a response I can use. Believe it or not, I called the BATF to ask about this and got a response that "if it does not have a trigger group, or a hole drilled for a selector and or a final 3rd fold on the flat , it is ok > Furthermore, the agent told me that it is perfectly legal to own and make a closed bolt pistol without BATF approval if its for your own personal use. The problem comes in if you sell the weapon. Then you have to serial # it.
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johnwilliamson062
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you have an unregistered receiver. If it was a 10/22 receiver it would be illegal.
armsmaster270
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In CA unless it was registered with DOJ prior to the assault weapon ban It is an illegal assault weapon full auto or semi auto no difference go to
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php