Is this a Police Magnum, Express Magnum or neither?

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Hello,

I bought this gun from Gunbroker.com and am trying to figure out what the hell it is. The Auction was titled as follows: Remington 870P Police Magnum Synthetic 18½".

Is this an older version Police Magnum or just an Express? I've already googled it and came up with nothing. It still holds it original finish, which is an OD green.

I would call remington and ask them, but I'm currently in theatre and talking with someone who's going to try and sell me stuff is not on the top of my list at this time.

Also, what kind of stock is this (synthetic obviously). I know it is a factory remington stock, but I can't figure out what kind/ model (I've googled this also).

Thanks for any comments or help with this. :confused:


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Much appreciation oregunner,

Thank you for taking the time to figure out what kind of buttstock it is. The Lil' bastard is kind of pricy ($67.00).

How do you like yours? I won't be able to get a feel for mine for a few more months.
 
I built mine on an older Express that I had used to duck hunt with for years. The action has smoothed out from years of shooting and cycling the action. I put an 18" short barrel on it. It's like an old friend. I can load and shoot it in my sleep. It has a side saddle with 5 rounds of 00 buck, ready for action. Hopefully I'll never need to pull the trigger in defense of life and limb. Mark
 
Check with Remington. Unless it is an older gun, it doesn't seem to be an 870P. Reportedly, there have been a lot of Express models sold on the internet as police models that are not. Part of the confusion is that police departments sell surplus guns that were used for police purposes but in fact are not actual police models.
 
Since at least the 1980's Remington has stamped police guns with the POLICE MAGNUM stamp on the left side of the receiver.

In so far as I know, Remington has not sold a Police model with a green finish.
They're mostly dark gray parkerizing or satin blue.
My guess is it's an Express model with an aftermarket finish.

Also, I don't recall seeing the Remington-Choate stock used on Police models.
I seem to recall these were sold by Remington as an accessory, not on factory guns.

The only way to be suer is to contact Remington and give them the serial number. They'll tell you the model and in what configuration it was shipped.
The Remington web site has an excellent question system under the customer service link:

http://www.remington.com/
 
Thanks everyone for your input.

I just received 2 emails back from seperate Remington LE Salesmen . The reply emails reads as follows (Seperated by color):


NJ,

The shotgun does not appear to be a “Police Magnum or an Express”. It looks like an early police model before the express or Police Magnum came out. It appears to have been built in 1990 according to the serial number (if it is what it looks like). It would be equal to today’s Police Magnum in quality and construction. I hope this helps. Thanks, Dan.

Sincerely,
Dan Curtis (Sgt. UCSO ret.) | Western Region Law Enforcement Sales
AK, AZ, CA, CO, ID, HI, MT, NM, NV, OR, UT, WA, WY
Remington Arms Company, Inc./Bushmaster Firearms International


NJ,

Mr. Curtis is 100 % correct . It is a 25037 and it was made well prior to the inexpensive Express Tactical line. It also came in a window where the 870 receivers were not stamped “870 POLICE MAGNUM”
By its age, these should have all the steel police parts in it. It would be equal to a new 870 Police Magnum.

Robin Eaves | Law Enforcement Sales SE USA
Remington Arms Company - Bushmaster Firearms LLC
 
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I have an early 90's 870P that is blued with an 18.5 cylinder choked barrel with wood stocks. The box says Police but the receiver does not. It is very possible yours is a police model but just not marked accordingly. The police models of the era had a couple of different features from the current ones most notably the trigger pull.
 
Back in the days before the Express line, the Remington Police was really nothing more than a commercial Wingmaster with a dull finish (usually blued) and usually with a non-checkered oil finished stock.
Many of the even older police guns were stamped Wingmaster on the receiver.

If the finish is a Remington parkerized finish it''s possible the parkerized finish is turning the greenish color older park can develop.
 
Looks like my 1990 special purpose wingmaster. These are wingmasters that have a smooth park type finish and alloy triggerguard &real walnut stock stock. The cheaper express has hardwood stock&plastic trigger guard and very ruff bead blasted finish with lots of ruffness. Some people will say these are EXpress ,but they are wingmasters and glass smooth in action. They were made in the 1990=1992 time frame. Winmasters are very fine pumps!!!
 
got some

We have 10-12 of these guns at my unit, stamped, as yours, some, if not most w/ the "x" prefixed serial number as yours, factory parkerized, but they came originally with a birch stock and a matching short LE style forearm.

They all have forged (as opposed to MIMED) extractors, and I belive are superior to the Express model, ie there are no "plastic parts" and they are indeed "all steel parts".

What they do (did) NOT have was the heavy duty carrier dog spring, HD mag tube spring, HD sear (?) spring common on the Police models. There is also an HD part or mod for the ejector but I am not sure of the specifics.

Changing the dog spring, mag spring and sear spring were easy and affordable upgrades.

Scattergun Bob is the man on this topic and we might hear from him.
 
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